If Morales Wins, Will He Seek the Presidency?
Predicting the future in politics is always a dubious business. In Bolivia it is dubious en el extremo (Who predicted in 2001 that we would have five different Presidents in five years?). But with an army of fresh foreign reporters headed this way to cover Bolivia’s Presidential vote – many of whom read this Blog – here’s a bit of analysis and prediction that they ought to keep in mind as they try to interpret the strange dance of Bolivia’s unplanned elections.
Rule #1: Winning the Popular Vote is Not Winning the Presidency
Okay, let’s say that the polls are relatively accurate and not much changes between now and December 18th. If that is the case, then Evo Morales and MAS will likely finish in first place with (and this is a guess) somewhere between 30% to 35% of the vote. Tuto Quiroga comes in a strong second place with 25%. Samuel Doria Medina finishes third with 15% or so. The rest of the pack comes in with somewhere between 2% to 5% each.
To be sure, other scenarios are possible. Morales could ride a late surge and come close to 40% (MAS greatest hope is another lame statement against him out of the US Embassy like in 2002, but the Embassy is not that lame). Tuto could also find a last minute surge of Medina voters rushing to his side in an anti-Evo vote, a move Quiroga is trying to promote with public statements that, if he were running in third place he would drop out and back whomever could beat Morales.
I now present rule #1 for novice reporters of Bolivian politics: Coming in first in the popular vote does not mean you win the Presidency.
Once the vote is counted the real game begins, the behind-closed-doors negotiations between the parties in which the two top place finishers (under the Constitution, only they can be elected to the Presidency) try to assemble a block of 51% of the Congress. That vote in the Congress is how Bolivia elects its President, not the popular vote on December 18th.
If Quiroga should finish in first place, it seems a pretty clear scenario that Medina will join with him to get his 51% and deliver the former President a Presidency to call his own (Quiroga’s previous year as President was to serve out the term of the dying Hugo Banzer).
If Morales and Quiroga finish first and second respectively, Mr. Medina becomes the only Bolivian voter that matters, and he has certainly been sending out ample signals that an alliance with MAS is possible. This includes some sharpened rhetoric against foreign corporations, from the man who joined Bechtel as a 5% investor in the debacle of Bechtel’s water takeover in Cochabamba five years ago.
Evo’s Choice
Certainly there is ample speculation that MAS and Morales would eagerly join with Medina to give Bolivia its first indigenous President and one clearly dedicated to reversing the nation’s “Washington Consensus’ economic course. Such a deal would win Morales his long sought Presidency (this is his third run) and would probably deliver Medina and his backers an ample share of political power, especially in the government’s economic apparatus.
But there is also a very good chance that Morales and MAS might not contest the Presidency at all, and that comes from a source of mine that is about as close as one gets to Morales. Here’s why:
First, any deal with Medina would compromise a Morales/MAS government deeply from the start, and in particular on the two issues at the heart of the MAS campaign. A coalition that includes a leader in the Santa Cruz autonomy movement (Medina’s Vice-Presidential running mate) does not bode well for a forceful move forward to convene a Constituent Assembly. A coalition with deep connections to international corporations does not pave a smooth road to take back Bolivia’s gas and oil from those corporations.
Second, Morales would face a Congress that is assuredly going to be dedicated to blocking him at every turn. His base in Congress would be a clear minority and a good portion of the rest would love to see a Morales Presidency fall flat on its face.
Third, from the moment he assumes the Presidency Morales would face a mountain of high (an unrealistic) expectations from his supporters and from Bolivia’s social movements – an absolute guarantee of disappointment. And in Bolivia popular disappointment with politicians is not a pretty sight – hence its current average of a new President each year.
Evo’s Alternative
The alternative is for MAS to not seek the Presidency by wheeling and dealing for a 51% majority. Instead MAS could stand aside and let a very weak Tuto Quiroga take the Presidency and immediately turn its first place finish into political and street pressure for the convening of a Constituent Assembly. That Assembly would be empowered to both rewrite the political structure of the government and deal with issues such as taking back the nation’s gas and oil from the likes of British Gas, Shell, Enron and Repsol. Being a strong opposition instead of a weak government has its advantages, both for the issues MAS is promoting and its longer-term prospects for a successful Presidency instead of a failed one.
This is clearly the debate within MAS in the run up to the December 18 vote and will continue to be afterwards if Morales finishes first. Standing in the way of such a strategy is the nation’s most powerful ideology – not socialism, not capitalism, but opportunism. Political campaigns are fueled by a sense of self-destiny. Candidates couldn’t do all they do without it. If Morales and MAS finish with close to 40% of the vote or higher, a real chance to take the Presidency will be a hard thing to walk away from, especially for all those people who can get jobs out if it.
So my friends in the press, welcome to the complicated chess game that is Bolivian politics. And oh yes, if you come to Cochabamba, be sure to try the Pique Macho.
Rule #1: Winning the Popular Vote is Not Winning the Presidency
Okay, let’s say that the polls are relatively accurate and not much changes between now and December 18th. If that is the case, then Evo Morales and MAS will likely finish in first place with (and this is a guess) somewhere between 30% to 35% of the vote. Tuto Quiroga comes in a strong second place with 25%. Samuel Doria Medina finishes third with 15% or so. The rest of the pack comes in with somewhere between 2% to 5% each.
To be sure, other scenarios are possible. Morales could ride a late surge and come close to 40% (MAS greatest hope is another lame statement against him out of the US Embassy like in 2002, but the Embassy is not that lame). Tuto could also find a last minute surge of Medina voters rushing to his side in an anti-Evo vote, a move Quiroga is trying to promote with public statements that, if he were running in third place he would drop out and back whomever could beat Morales.
I now present rule #1 for novice reporters of Bolivian politics: Coming in first in the popular vote does not mean you win the Presidency.
Once the vote is counted the real game begins, the behind-closed-doors negotiations between the parties in which the two top place finishers (under the Constitution, only they can be elected to the Presidency) try to assemble a block of 51% of the Congress. That vote in the Congress is how Bolivia elects its President, not the popular vote on December 18th.
If Quiroga should finish in first place, it seems a pretty clear scenario that Medina will join with him to get his 51% and deliver the former President a Presidency to call his own (Quiroga’s previous year as President was to serve out the term of the dying Hugo Banzer).
If Morales and Quiroga finish first and second respectively, Mr. Medina becomes the only Bolivian voter that matters, and he has certainly been sending out ample signals that an alliance with MAS is possible. This includes some sharpened rhetoric against foreign corporations, from the man who joined Bechtel as a 5% investor in the debacle of Bechtel’s water takeover in Cochabamba five years ago.
Evo’s Choice
Certainly there is ample speculation that MAS and Morales would eagerly join with Medina to give Bolivia its first indigenous President and one clearly dedicated to reversing the nation’s “Washington Consensus’ economic course. Such a deal would win Morales his long sought Presidency (this is his third run) and would probably deliver Medina and his backers an ample share of political power, especially in the government’s economic apparatus.
But there is also a very good chance that Morales and MAS might not contest the Presidency at all, and that comes from a source of mine that is about as close as one gets to Morales. Here’s why:
First, any deal with Medina would compromise a Morales/MAS government deeply from the start, and in particular on the two issues at the heart of the MAS campaign. A coalition that includes a leader in the Santa Cruz autonomy movement (Medina’s Vice-Presidential running mate) does not bode well for a forceful move forward to convene a Constituent Assembly. A coalition with deep connections to international corporations does not pave a smooth road to take back Bolivia’s gas and oil from those corporations.
Second, Morales would face a Congress that is assuredly going to be dedicated to blocking him at every turn. His base in Congress would be a clear minority and a good portion of the rest would love to see a Morales Presidency fall flat on its face.
Third, from the moment he assumes the Presidency Morales would face a mountain of high (an unrealistic) expectations from his supporters and from Bolivia’s social movements – an absolute guarantee of disappointment. And in Bolivia popular disappointment with politicians is not a pretty sight – hence its current average of a new President each year.
Evo’s Alternative
The alternative is for MAS to not seek the Presidency by wheeling and dealing for a 51% majority. Instead MAS could stand aside and let a very weak Tuto Quiroga take the Presidency and immediately turn its first place finish into political and street pressure for the convening of a Constituent Assembly. That Assembly would be empowered to both rewrite the political structure of the government and deal with issues such as taking back the nation’s gas and oil from the likes of British Gas, Shell, Enron and Repsol. Being a strong opposition instead of a weak government has its advantages, both for the issues MAS is promoting and its longer-term prospects for a successful Presidency instead of a failed one.
This is clearly the debate within MAS in the run up to the December 18 vote and will continue to be afterwards if Morales finishes first. Standing in the way of such a strategy is the nation’s most powerful ideology – not socialism, not capitalism, but opportunism. Political campaigns are fueled by a sense of self-destiny. Candidates couldn’t do all they do without it. If Morales and MAS finish with close to 40% of the vote or higher, a real chance to take the Presidency will be a hard thing to walk away from, especially for all those people who can get jobs out if it.
So my friends in the press, welcome to the complicated chess game that is Bolivian politics. And oh yes, if you come to Cochabamba, be sure to try the Pique Macho.

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41 Comments:
Excellent analysis! Following this line of thought, Tuto knows that if assumes the presidency in such a scenario, he's going to be on very shaky ground from outset and with one false move and he could be outta there.
One thing still puzzles me. What incentive does Doria Medina have to form a coalition with Tuto if he knows that a Tuto government would be on the edge of cliff from the get-go? I'd bet that Doria Medina would pull out of at the first sign of trouble.
And also, your analysis, though well-done, fails to show the other side of the competition: Tuto. If Morales may be willing to be in the opposition again and withdraw from the race, don't you think it is possible for Quiroga to considering the same thing, as well?
Also, although you claim to have this information from the Morales inner circle, given your bias, is it possible that this article is just a ploy to make Quiroga think about withdrewing from the race?
Very good article Jim, it is refreshing to see that when you want it, you can actually write things a little less biased; never the less, apart of Suspicious comments about you not showing the other side, really to much to ask you, all of what you wrote, I like all those IF, could happen.
To all those “newly arrived in Bolivian politics”, there are a couple of scenarios that Jim failed to mention, ones again there is always that gap. After the elections and the votes are counted, if the first placed doesn’t have 50% plus one of the votes, the newly appointed congress will define who the President will be. It can be trough partisan negotiations like Jim said OR there could be no negotiations; in that last case all the newly appointed congressman vote for the first, the second or none of the candidates. If the first time they do not arrive to a 50% plus one vote for any candidate, they do it again, only that in the case of the second time, if the candidate that was second do not have the majority in congress, the candidate that was first on the polls becomes immediately the President, no negotiations needed.
Now, taking in account that possibility, and Jim’s polls, my IF’s. If Tuto sees that his second place will give him a very week government, he will ask his congressmen to vote blank. The polls show clearly that PODEMOS will have 50% or more in the senate, and there is no reason to believe the same is not going to happen in the whole congress. This will obligate Evo to assume the presidency, o boy; Jim must be having an orgasm reading this. But that presidency will be as week as Evo’s political program.
The second possibility is that Tuto and PODEMOS win the election; in that case they will certainly be at least around 40% of the votes, something not seeing in Bolivia for more that 80% of the voters, a comment for those newly arrived in our politics as well. That, plus their strong position in congress and the approval of at least 8 of the 9 Prefects, will give him a strong government. If he cannot get the 50% plus one of the congress on his own, he could easily ask Doria Medina, publicly, to vote blank in congress. Avoiding negotiations and living Medina with hard votes for the constituent, which by the way is the reason it will never be an Evo – Doria alliance.
Finally, the reality of why MAS is not seeking the presidency, something that Jim mentioned several times coming from somebody very deep inside that political organization, him; is that more than 60% of the Bolivian population do not want Evo Morales as his president.
To all the newcomer journalists, welcome to Bolivia, Jim’s advise about “pique a lo macho” in Cochabamba city is one of his few assertive participations; I suggest El Savarin, La Abarca or la Casa de Campo, remember to ask for a couple of litters of the good old Taquiña beer will you are at it.
Ahhh! here i am trying to understand bolivian politics (unfortuantly i am not one of the ones flying there shortly) and "paisano de elite", at the end of all that writing you simply state: "more than 60% of the Bolivian population do not want Evo Morales as his president." HELP! how do you know that? what??
shame on you for confusing me like that.
yeah, onto other things. could medina thus form an allience with either tuto or evo? i mean, how does that work out? here in the US i guess its pretty black-and-white (red and blue, actually) but why would medina's people, as well as tuto's and evo's, want to compromise so much if they are planning on being the president? the idea of parties is that they each stand for something distinct that they can claim the other neglects, so wouldn't it be pretty counter-productive?
p.s: is it possible/has it ever happened that in the dec 18th type elections the people vote for one candidate and give him/her over 50%? that'd be kinda cool...
:)
Hi c..girl,
1) It is possible for one candidate to get more than 50% of the vote...theoretically. This has never happened since Bolivia regained its democracy in 1982. I think that the most somebody has obtained is 34%. The reason is that, contrary to what the writer of this blog has led you to believe, Bolivia is not divided into either poor, exploited indians and rich, mf-ing whites. Bolivia has around 80 different ethnic groups. The 4 greatest are aymara, quechua & guarani (indigenous) and mixed/mulatos/bi-racials or whatever you wanna call them. Historically, Aymaras don't get along with Quechuas, because the latter dominated the former during the Inca empire. Thus, you have Morales (a predominantly Quechua mestizo) with most if his support from quechuas (although there is ample aymara support for him, as well), Felipe Quispe, (an aymara, with mostly aymara support), and the rest, mestizos with support from everybody else.
2) The reason why paisano de elite says that more than 60% of Bolivians do not want Evo as president is supported by the latest polls: Evo has reached 33% of the intention of vote, at the most. This means that 67% os Bolivians are voting for somebody else, i.e. want somebody else as president.
if you thought that most Bolivians yearn for Morales to take office, you have bought Jim's bullshit.
3) Medina could give his support to either Morales or Quiroga. The thing works like this: Suppose Morales gets 33% of the vote and Quiroga 27%. Depending on which regions they won, Morales would have around 30% of the lower house and Quiroga 35% (I am assuming Quiroga won 6 regions and Morales 3, that why 33% of the vote yields only 30% of the lower house and a simila thing happens with Quiroga). So, neither candidate has 50% of the lower house. So, in order to get what they need (20% for Morales and 15% for Quiroga), they need to get the support of a party that holds that percentage of seats in the lower house. In this case, it would be Doria Medina. Typically, negotiations are as follows: The party needing the votes will offer the party who has the votes a part in the government, usually a portion of secretaries. The party with the deciding votes decides whom to support based on what they are offered, not ideology or governmetn plan or anyhting.
4) You should read these bolgs on Bolivia instead if Jim's. Jim's Blog is too biased in its accounts and will give a very different view to what actually goes on in Bolivia. I have found the following blogs to be the best:
Barrio Flores
MABB
Off Topic
Ciao!
Boli-Nica. I list the last one, because it is the polar opposite of Jim's. He also has 2 posts where he uncovered Jim's subversive activites in Bolivia, for that matter. Look for the word "NGO" in the blog's search engine (use "search this blog" option) and read the 2 articles titled NGO Shenanigans. That is what the writer of this blog is doing in Bolivia.... so much for "democracy" center.
BTW, the blogs are listed in no particular order.
gr's blog list was helpful, even though i think my politics are more towards jim's. Jim, could you post a list of a few Bolivian blogs you read regularly? Yours is extremely helpful but I'd like to know who else is trustworthy.
Hi Jim, interesting article and some interesting comments here as well.
Bolivian politics certainly are complex and I'm just starting to get the graps of the most basic stuff, mainly how the election system works.
Personally, I'd hope for Evo to win the presidency, but of course, not if it'll be a very weak new government.
Are there any small leftist groups left in the presidential race, like Quispes party? Say, hypothetically, that Evo gets over 40%, would it be a posibility that he forms a coalition with any of these smaller leftist groups to gain some kind of governability on the basis of a common platform where
1) nationalization of the most important natural resources and
2) legalization of the coca production
is respected?
Given the scenario that Evo form a coalition with Medina, I guess Evos group would become the stronger part and would get through these two main demands, whilst Medina would get some more symbolical issues through, and maybe Evo would have to moderate or delay some of his more radical proposals for transforming the economy.
I'm not sure if I agree that this would necessarily be non-governable or make for the disappointment of Evos voters, as long as the two issues main issues (nationalization of gas and coca legalization) are put through.
As for resolving social problems (the main source of conflict it seems), maybe this could get an kickstart by getting some initial help from Cuba and Venezuela - if this was permitted by the Medina part of the imagined Morales-Medina coalition - fly in a few thousand community doctors, make a alfabetization campaign like the venezuelan one and start some other projects based around the more affordable of the "misiones" of Venezuela.
In Venezuela they waited quite a few years before embarking on any real reforms (although more symbolical and formal measures were taken, such as the new constitution), but copy some of the more affordable of their recent social programs (2003-), without announcing a socialist revolution or anything like that, and this could strengthen support for a new government and for Evo as a president a lot even within sectors that didn't vote for Evo now. Radical social democratic policies really. Would also make it more difficult for the US govt to get international support for any type of intervention as many european and latinamerican countries support these ideas.
Just a made up scenario developed here in my appartment miles and miles away.
Completely unthinkable, impossible even?
Or a distint possibility?
Saludos,
Norwegian reader.
Another question. Evo has repeatedly said that he don't trust polls, because in the last elections the elections proved that he had a much higher support than the polls had claimed- maybe twice as high as some polls. I don't know if this is an exageration or if it is true. But is it a possibility this time as well that Evos support is really much higher than what it seems in the polls? Or is this claim from his side just a "tactical claim"? How about rural areas, are they polled as well as the urban areas? Is there still a lot of difference between the degree of support for Evo between rural and urban areas?
saludos
CC girl, don’t get confused, GR. explained to you something about the statistics in the polls, Bolivian politics and Jim’s bias; to get it a little clearer to you I explain where my number came from;
Last elections polls where used as a political weapon to misinform, especially by a political party named NFR, in those polls that party was first until the end and MAS had a long shot third place. It turned out that MAS got a second place very close to the winning party and NFR was third, half a point from MAS. After that sad experience, today the polls open to the public are much more realistic and each party has their own polls to use in their strategies, like it should be. The polls open to the public don’t just show intention of votes, they show second intention of vote, % of undecided voters, show between whom those undecided votes are and also show to whom Bolivians will never vote. I evaluated all that information and Evo in the best of all possible scenarios had a 40% participation, yes my Norwegian reader from your apartment in the other side of the world, Quispes votes from MIP and all lefties votes are considered in this scenario.
Rewarding Jim’s biases, GR. was right, but to me his blog is a good source of information of the thinking of the new generations of radical socialist and communist that reborn from the downfall of the Berlin wall. He represents a lot of people in the USA and Europe that fill that their Countries governments are screwing other people in the world to support their excellent standard of living. He also represents a lot of people in Europe, like the Norwegian reader down from your entry, that has that spine stuck in the throat about his European ancestors slavering the native people of Latin America and support anything that has to do with supposedly native representatives, no matter if for good or wrong.
I consider Jim a moderate socialist in Bolivian terms, he will be considered an extremist in the USA, and not even the Democratic Party will like him among his allies. In Bolivia he found a niche to express himself without any wonder, he probably wins the typical gringo salary of the leader of a ONG, 5 to 6 times any Bolivian in the same place, and if the Country goes to hell, he will just pick up his American passport and take his family safely to other Country to mess up, Peru and Ecuador, watch out.
Now, you don need to believe me or GR., before I started participating on this blog as a matter of trying to check over Jim’s misinformation or better say, lack of informing completely; which I do only in some cases since some of his points are very valuable, like the recent one about the women jail in Cochabamba, I read the Democracy Center web page information and it gave me a pretty good idea of where I has standing on; I suggest you take your time to do so too.
First, this is pretty good analysis from Jim. But ther's a glaring problem: absolutely no mention of legislativce seat distributions!
It's not about popular vote for president, as Jim mentions. But there's a reason for that, which he doesn't carefully explain. Yes, the election of the president is done through negotiations to build a legislative majority. But that is EXACTLY where seat distributions come in. Think, for analogy, the US electoral college.
Seats are distributed on a departmental basis (there are nine departments). And Tuto already has a majority of the senate in the bag. He's also much forther ahead in potential lower house seats. Meaning that while Evo is the front runner in the national popular vote, Tuto is currently the front runner in the legislative seat distribution.
How many seats the parties have will make a dramatic difference as to who will win the presidency. I'm not sure why Jim ignores this. I've put up some predictions based on polling data here:
http://www.centellas.org/miguel/archives/001492.html
The post also includes an explanation of why some claim (as I do) that Evo is a "Condorcet loser" (the least preferred candidate).
Jim is correct that predictions can be tricky things. But if we're going to discuss potential post-election barganing, we can't do that w/o discussing seat distributions.
paisano de elite needs to get off Jim's nutz. We get the point you don't agree with Jim's view. Move on. Damn, some sort of stalker always talking about Jim this, Jim that. Every post you make even in your own blogs talks about Jim.
How can Jim, one person, mess up a country that is already messed up? So what if he favours Evo and MAS. They can't mess up the country any worse than Goni and all those other fools have. You tell me a country with that amount of natural resources that is in the state that Bolivia is in with more than half the population on like a $1 a day. You don't think thre is something wrong?
But I'm sure you aren't living on a $1 a day.
Organizing opposition to free trade makes the Democracy Center not democratic? Give me a break. Some of the people who post here are just mad that no one listens to them so they try to heckle a respected blogger in hopes of getting attnetion for themselves. And by the way, whoever said that Jim Schultz is an extremist by US standards obviously doesn't know very much about US politics and ought to do a little research on his activism in California.
Hey, I just want to add that I am not associated with any of the blogs I listed. I just lean more towards their point of view.
In case you are wondering, I got all them blogs from typing bolivia in Technorati and through the links that those blogs give.
Up yours, Matt!
What will happen if Morales seeks the presidency and doesn't do anything to alter the course of economic reforms? It wouldn't be the first time that a candidate has bait and switched to win an election? Why not? That would ensure that the governing coalition wouldn't be roadblocked at every turn...
There seems to be a big underlying assumption on Jim's part that Evo's side can pull off a constitutional convention better than anyone else. Jim speculates that Evo as an oppositional character can get the convention off the ground but as a weak president it would be more difficult. I think that needs a better explanation.
Let's look at that assembly. Up until now no one can agree on how to apportion delegates. Should lowland indians get more or less representation? Should it be based on ethnic identity or on the weight of a population no mas? To assume Evo's party can surpass this quagmire better as a roadblocker instead of a president seems like a hasty opinion, even if Jim has insider info.
MAS canNOT mess up Bolivia any worse than Goni and the other presidents?? Villain N’ Black (VNB)? …you are the perfect example on how one person’s un-balanced position shapes your position.
VNB, I can clearly see you defend Jim…your choice, thereafter, will not debate that.
But what you will need to do is to get more informed on Bolivian politics, and more on Bolivian HISTORY.
Yeap, all the presidents in Bolivia mess up, in my opinion, because the democratic system that we have does not consider the fact that we, as a country, are non-educated.
Presidents could be blamed, but I see, that is even worse what the president’s political party do while in power…5 years to get rich! …how about the other political parties that helped the dude become president?
Thus, if Tuto is president, things will get messed up. But if Evo is president, things are going to get even worse…I predict a “Pinochetaso”.
The big problem in Bolivia is not who becomes president, the big problem is that Bolivian society is not educated to “know how” to use its own resources to get out of misery…and also, not educated enough to punish politicians with its vote.
And of course VNB, my education gives me a lot more than $1 a day, but more important and valuable than this, it makes me realize how low on Bolivian understanding you have.
One more example for you VNB…but first a question:
Do you think that in the USA a candidate for presidency could maintain a favorable position in the polls after repeatedly saying that he/she will NOT DEBATE?
Clearly, people that will vote without caring for information are voting with their hearts more than with their brains.
The problem is education and Evo clearly sees that he doesn't have enough of it to debate Bolivia.
Saludos, Javier F.
Matt, are you the type of person that only cares what he finds in your side of the river? …most extreme leftist are like this…will never open their minds to explore what is out there in the other right side of the river.
Welcome the debate matt, filter the emotional remarks if they so much bother you.
You might have a magic ball that tells you what the blogger here think or conclude…as you state …“Some of the people who post here are just mad that no one listens to them”.
I can clearly see that debate was generated mainly by bloggers that present the other side of thinking and information much with the objective to show balance….making this blog a little bit more balanced and therefore more interesting.
Clearly wrong Matt you are, because your response is thanks to the fact that you are listening.
Saludos, Javier
Javier F (JFK)?
I do have a strong understanding of Bolivia. I lived in Sucre and I follow what is going on down there all of the time. My girlfriend (soon to be wife) is from Tarija as well and she keeps me informed as well. Please don't make assumptions JFK. Don't feel like if you read a few books all of a sudden you are an expert.
See it's easy for you to sit here and talk about educating people but the fact is the poor in Bolivia don't have the types of opportunities that you did. Your opportunities allowed you to get an education. You've never been hungry and had to beg for food. I know your type JFK. I dealt with many of them in Bolivia. You see I have an education as well but unlike you it made me realize how fortunate I was to be given such an opportunity and to not think I was above other people.
To answer your question "Do you think that in the USA a candidate for presidency could maintain a favorable position in the polls after repeatedly saying that he/she will NOT DEBATE?"
That person and that party would not even stand a chance in the US if there stance on certain issues i.e. natural resources was like some of the Bolivian candidates. See the problem isn't education, it's silver spoon capitalists like you JFK.
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