Seven Years On
I am sitting here in my office on a Saturday, writing a Blog to avoid getting to work on the task that brings me here instead of enjoying a day off. I am supposed to be doing the final editing on my chapter on the Cochabamba Water Revolt for our new book, Dignity and Defiance: Stories from Bolivia's Challenge to Globalization (UC Press, 2008). Then it struck me on my way in that all those events happened exactly seven years ago this week. It was seven years ago today, the first Saturday in April, and around this same time, midday, that Victor Hugo Daza, a 17-year-old boy, became the Water Revolt's sole fatality. He was shot in the face by a military sharpshooter who was later acquitted by a military court and promoted. Justice Bolivian style.
The Water Revolt set so many things in motion. A chain of political events, from the protests against the IMF's belt-tightening demands to the uprising against Goni's cheap gas export plans, all of which eventually spilled into ballot politics and help make Evo Morales President. It was during the water revolt that I first met Morales, on Calle Heroinas. He might have been throwing a rock. I can't remember.
In the seven years since, Cochabamba has also played host to hoards of researchers, filmmakers and others all eager to get a little piece of the story to call their own. There is a romance to the Water Revolt by those who look at it from abroad. Some of it is deserved and some of it misplaced. I try to do justice to all of that in this chapter and I hope, I really hope, it is the last thing I will ever write abut the Water Revolt.
Seven years later, it remains a powerful story of a people waking up to global forces that were seizing control of their most basic resource. The people beat Bechtel, not once but twice. First they took to the streets to kick the US corporate giant out of town (after it jacked up water rates by more than 50% overnight). Then a global coalition beat back Bechtel's attempt, in a closed-door World Bank trade court, to take $50 million from Cochabambinos as a consolation prize.
It is also the story of how the social movements that led the romantic rebellion failed in the task afterwards of building a new public water company worthy of the sacrifices that people made to take it back from Bechtel. Cochabamba's water company has made some progress in expanding service to the poorer neighborhoods of the city, where spigots in the home are a dream. But seven years later that public water company is still hobbled by the same chronic inefficiencies and petty corruption that led to World Bank demands for its privatization. The Cochabamba Water Revolt, like my book chapter I suppose, remains an uncompleted task.
Note: For those interested in The Democracy Center's extensive writings on the Water Revolt, including reports from the streets while it happened, please see here. The photo above was taken by Tom Kruse and the full collection of his Water Revolt photos can be viewed here.

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76 Comments:
Mr. Schulz, if you could please explain how did this "global coalition" stopped Bechtel from sucking millions to the bolivian govmt. Do not be tempted to respond "it´s all in the book", please...
You might not even finish the book and we could then be left in the shadows. (Take it as a colleague´s "break a leg" wish).
Best regards,
Innocent Bystander
The Water Revolt set so many things in motion. A chain of political events, from the protests against the IMF's belt-tightening demands to the uprising against Goni's cheap gas export plans, all of which eventually spilled into ballot politics and help make Evo Morales President.
Quit lying about "cheap gas", you are either deliberately misrepresenting information or have no clue about how tough it was negotiate ANY deal involving Bolivia after the 80's collapse - and that the negotiating teams from Bolivia, (3 governments) did not give anything away.
And not to mention the fact that due to the revolt in question Bolivia lost a great chance to export LNG to the US, billions of investment, and also a bargaining chip to increase the price of gas sold to Argentina and Brazil.
Seven years later, it remains a powerful story of a people waking up to global forces that were seizing control of their most basic resource.
It is also the tale of ideological dinosaurs, obsolete in most of the modern world, preying on a much-suffered people, by playing to their fears, prejudices and nationalism. Of people who avoid reality, guiding their ideology by what feels "good".
"Let the people take back their resources", which in 100 years of previous experiences means simply handing business to the state, which ultimately fail. And yet the blind, deluded, and stupid continue to repeat the same pattern, over and over again.
All this while the same "Washington Consensus" style policies have been making the Chinese and Indians rich.
Inocencio,
I talked to a Finance VP at Bechtel, Mr. Pilzer, and his version of the case is that they settled becuase the damage to their image was worth far more than the $50MM. While, I don't know the what the goodwill in their books is and the record does show a token payment from Bolivia, I give this guy the benefit of the doubt.
Jim has misslead people on this issue on several fronts. First of all the World Bank was against the deal. Second, the ICSID is not this secret tribunal that he tries to paint. To be part of the trial you could have been a amici curiae or a party, standard practice really, lest you have a mob show up. The trial is available here.
The way I see it, there are three options for the water service fees: Option A, everyone pays their fair share, Option B indutrial/rich consumers subsidize the poor, or Option C the central gov't gives a subsidy. When Bechtel first came in, they probably realized the true nature of the quality of the infrastructure and costs. So they raised rates to try to bring things up to par.
However, you have the likes of Jim and other SS members telling the people that since water comes from rain, it should be free Nothing about economic realities or the neeed to invest to build sewers, connections, etc. They kept with the rethoric that water is a human right and it should be FREE.
Seven years later, you see that nothing has been accomplished other than water companies are now a political prize where followers are given jobs in exchange of bribes.
The way I see it, the IDEAL solution is option A, but I do not see poor cochalas paying the cost of a sewer installation or laying a pipe to the water main. Bechtel, Aguas del Illimani, et. al. have tried a version of option B, but the social sectors forget that some of their members are really very well off vis a vis the truly poor. I frankly don't see a teacher or a policeman agreeing to have his bill go up 2x so a shoe shinner can have access (be not blind, because those are the choices). So methinks that C using the gas revenues is what will happen....the WORST choice possible
And in the case of mining, "let the state take back the resources" means that money is sucked into keeping inefficient and dangerous mines that should have been closed long ago, money that could have gone to education for these miners so that they could obtain alternative employement. Instead, yet another generation is condemned to die of silicosis before they reach 50.
Jim, by now, very few people apart form the ones that work in the DC and a couple of grindiotas in the US believe, as you wrote it; the, “Seven years later, it remains a powerful story of a people waking up to global forces that were seizing control of their most basic resource.” In relation of Cochabamba’s water war. Most people knowledge now that it had everything to do with, in your own words in this same post, having a part off “A chain of political events, from the protests against the IMF's belt-tightening demands to the uprising against Goni's cheap gas export plans, all of which eventually spilled into ballot politics and help make Evo Morales President”.
At list I am glad that you recognized the complete failure it was the supposedly victory of this appendix of the socialism of the XXI century. In effect, the Social Sectors (SS) in this case represented by your best friend Olivera and his Coordinadora del Agua and entities like your DC are only capable to destroy things, but given the opportunity to take over and run a company or a public entity, demonstrate to be a complete failure. What is happening in SEMAPA today is exactly what is happening with the Mazist regime in the executive power.
I always find funny how you use the excuse of the rising up the water bill 50% in some areas as the trigger of this water disaster, since off course 50% sounds like a lot. But in reality that 50% represents a lot less that what the average house in those places with water meters spend in buzz; and the numbers I hold were obtained from the amount of beer is distributed to the local beer agencies. This doesn’t even take in account the alcohol consumed from outside the agencies and the alcohol consumed in the several chicherias in some of these neighborhoods.
What is even more sadden, and clearly shows the type of bigot you are, is that the real poor people that were going to benefit from having a world class company like Bechtel running the water system in Cochabamba; did not even had the water meters to complain about it. They were buying water 7 years ago, as they are doing TODAY, from unhealthy water cisterns, at a lot more than the price increased by Betchel per liter to those with the meter. What an irony to try to romanticize with that hard, ugly and pestilent true.
Where is our water company heading today, the Bechtel killer has not improve the lives of anybody; taking in account the quantity of Cochabambinos that have gone to Spain, I can safely assume that SEMAPA has reduced the number of people it benefited in the past 7 years. Further more, news, I know, all are bad when addressing SEMAPA, but don’t blame me, blame Jim. As mentioned in this newspaper article:
http://www.lostiempos.com/noticias/31-03-07/31_03_07_loc3.php
Says, SEMAPA owns Aguas del Tunari, the company that provides a good percentage of its water, up to; US$ 1.686.363. So, all SEMAPA’s accounts are being “iced” in the banks and unless Chavez doesn’t throw some money in, we will be reading in the near future about water shortages and people in SEMAPA not being paid. Of course, we can always blame problems to somebody else and can star a new water war, against Aguas del Tunari this time, and star the socialism of the XXI century rubbish all over again. Your decision Jim, if you dig down deep enough in your dumpster, you might find out Aguas del Tunari have some foreign investors as well.
Bolivia Libre, Is there any reason on earth for you to believe that anyone at The Democracy Center, or actually anyone else reads your rants here?
Rants? What are you talking about Anonymous? Bolivia Libre made perfect sense, and my guess is: that's what bugs you. I find that the commentators to this blog make more sense than the blogger. Unfortunately we here in the States will only get Jim's version of the events that will and have unfolded in Cochabamba. People here will only read Jim's distorted biased socialist view. The liberal rag hereabouts, The Sacramento Bee, prints columns written by our illustrious fearless beacon (Jim) shinning from the faraway city no one here can pronounce. I suspect once his book is finished, thousands of them will be bought by left wing professors in the US teaching Latin American studies.
All the brilliant observations made by people like Bolivia Libre will never make it beyond this blog. My hope is that one of these brilliant commentators somehow writes a book that tells the world the real story of what has happened in Bolivia.
My interest in Cochabamba stems from my son who was a Rotary exchange student there. I have fond memories of traveling through most of Bolivia.
Don in Lincoln, CA
Actually BL did ramble a little, but he does raise a very good point regarding the damage alcohol does to Bolivian society.
You can start with Evo, who in his efforts to emulate Fidel and give 7 hour speeches ends up rambling about his drunken nights with his buddies. On the last cocalero summit, that's all he talked about.
Then there is the preste culture, where alcohol is how you gain currency amongst your peers. We should ask Jim to be so kind and interview some of the radicals at Mujeres Creando on their thoughts about violence against women and alcohol. Another option for Jim would be to write about how alcohol is used in political rallies and bloqueos.
Even in the cities, the alcoholic culture is rampant. You have drunk bus/flota drivers going down the death road like ain't no thang. Cabbies and regular drivers also don't blink twice about driving drunk. In the Zona Sur of La Paz, also the "rich" kids don't even think is an issue to be driving drunk. One night after some drinks a friend offered to drive me. When I told him I would take a cab, it was as if I had called his mom something. Everyone in the group was *shocked* and almost insulted that I would rather pay $us1.50 instead of getting into a car with a guy that could barely walk.
I was also at an "upper class" wedding in La Paz last summer and people were giving so much shite because I was using the same drink to do my toasts. At a 'popular' baptism by the cementery it was no different. Everytime a guest came in, I had to down my drink, lest I insult the guest. After I puked my brains out, the family that invited me were nice enough to give me iced tea and told people I was drinking whiskey.
For all the talk about the damage transnational do the people, I'm willing to bet it is peanuts against the damage the Cerveceria Bolivia (not to mention the tax debt) has done. And please don't get me started on smoking....
So, when all is said and done (chest thumping seven years later over throwing the foreigners out IMF and Bechtel, that is), how's the water supply to El Alto and other areas doing, and who's paying for it now?
So, when Jim writes about something cultural rather than writing uninformed opinion pieces about political events he hasn't researched, he is accused of purposefully ignoring or trying to distract from inconvenient political situations. But when the issue is the privatization of public utilities and natural resources as imposed by global financial institutions, it is somehow deemed relevant to respond with sociologically and anthropologically unexamined complaints about alcohol use among poor and indigenous Bolivians? Odd.
As for the management of SEMAPA post 2000, I seem to recall that the members of the Coordinadora and others spoke in no uncertain terms at the time of the Water War about the challenges they faced and the unlikelihood that bureaucratic and structural problems would turn around easily or quickly.
What I notice among many commenters on this blog is a tendency, when the topic is past abuses (former governments, the US, international financial system, etc.), to respond by pointing out the failure of those resisting said abuses (the social movements, the Coordinadora, MAS, even the Democracy Center) to bring about utopia.
I think what was prophetic about the Coordinadora's stance in 2000 was their willingness -- and the willingness of the people of Cochabamba -- to say, "We don't need all the answers -- answers that have proven elusive to everyone who's come before -- in order to say that the current proposal or situation is unacceptable. We would rather reclaim the right to struggle ourselves for a better path forward than accept the status quo." That was, I think, both courageous and necessary.
It is sad that some - Bolivian and foreign - seem more eager to delight in the subsequent inevitable stumbles and failures of these new popular institutions than to work with them for a better future.
Actually I know very little about the water issue, so can’t side one way or the other. There does seem to be some misinterpretation of Jim’s comments though, at least they way I read them. He doesn’t appear to be chest-thumping victoriously about things really, in fact his post coming to the same sad conclusion that BL pointed out - that the water company has not being run very well since Bechtel left.
And I can recall the DC airing their concerns about what’s been going on at the water company at least a couple of times in recent weeks, with the removal of qualified & competent personnel, the continued poor management & service, to cite just a couple of examples.
I’ve only had a quick look at some of the documentation the DC has made available on the issue, but from this it doesn’t appear that the DC has such a firm ideological stance as some readers appear to be suggesting on how the water should be managed, for example stating quite clearly
"Nor are we opposed to private investment and involvement in public services such as water. Clearly, private investment is critical in a poor country such as Bolivia."
http://democracyctr.org/bechtel/world_bank_letters.htm
(In this same letter by the way Anon 10,46 you can see the DC’s answers to the WB’s claims that they were against the deal.)
So, from my reading of things, if there’s any “joy” expressed by the DC about the water uprisings it’s not that the people or the state took back from the evil foreign company what was rightfully theirs & kicked this devil out thereby taking an important step forward in the battle to build a new 21st century communist regime in Bolivia that will hopefully spread all over the world…
but simply… that the many people who simply couldn’t afford to pay for the hikes for the most basic necessity in life – water – rebelled against this, obtaining a crucial result, namely the chance for Cochabambinos to get to manage this most fundamental of resources in a better way.
The result now, seven years on? That chance hasn’t been taken as well as it could, & the water company seems to still be in a bit of a mess, as it was before. Sad, most sad. And I don’t think the DC is either less sad about that than any of us, or worse, trying to hide it by pretending that the picture now is rosier than it is.
And yet some of us, perhaps not very generously, appear to be happy to overlook the DC’s honesty in mentioning that things aren’t quite right yet, a concession that one wonders how easily they themselves would make about their own very many certainties about Bolivia…
Certainties that appear to be at least as ideologically-driven as those the DC is accused of nurturing. Certainties that have been at least as unsuccessful in the past in creating the perfect Bolivia. Certainties that, like it or not, most Bolivians have voted to be less certain about…
It may be just like Dan has said in fact. Some beautiful words he wrote. “Courageous and necessary”…
Well, some periods in life can be a bit scary, & courage can wane occasionally. That I can understand & even share. But when things are necessary, so damn necessary to some Bolivians that no amount of explanations, no theories models or systems, no words or numbers, can convince them that nothing new should be tried… it’s at this point my friends that our courage itself becomes necessary…
It becomes an essential resource see, something fundamental to our lives, a bit like water shall we say…
Jack
Dan and Jack sound like a couple of rambling sycophants.
I prefer blithering toady. Chattering bootlick, maybe. Maundering flunky? Stammering stooge? Babbling brownnoser, perhaps?
Anon 6:54,
I don't read B.L.'s rambling rants nor much of Dan's wild opinions disguised as facts after I read this keen insight:
"All the brilliant observations made by people like Bolivia Libre. .."
That was hilarious!
But I invest my passing moments here for information or reasoned opinions not for comedic relief.
Dan's post shows he lacks judgment (and credibility since I don't buy his suspect voluntary disclaimer as to his interest in attacking the democracy center's analysis being only based on a coicidental stay of his son as part of a student exchange program).
"How about they first read a book to learn what a valid argument is?" That is my response to Dan's other silly comment about B.L. aka "Bolivia Loser":
"My hope is that one of these brilliant commentators somehow writes a book that tells the world the real story of what has happened in Bolivia."
Funny stuff, that Dan is a real clown. Unfortunately, his spin in favor of the transnationals reminds me of the anger I felt when at a seminar I met a recent grad from Northwestern Univiersity's business school who was working for an international consulting firm. When she learned I was from Bolivia, she exclaimed how incredibly profitable and cheap had been their client's purchase of a privatized public entity. (I think it was Bolivian Power.) I told her I was appalled because those profits were an exploitation of Bolivia's poor. And after I spoke about the need for societal change from the bottom up through grassroots movements, she and her formerly friendly fellow yuppies avoided me like the plague. My message was not in agreement with their values.
Fortunately, Jim and the DC put into practice principles I preached that led to Bechtel's public relationbs blackeye. Thus they deserve some of the credit for the people's victory over Bechtel, even under Bechtel's spin of their debacle.
NB:
Don: short form of Donald; here, a one-time commenter above, from Lincoln, CA, admirer of Bolivia Libre and father of a Rotary student.
Dan: short form of Daniel; here, me - a rambling sycophant, from Seattle, WA soon to relocate to Cochabamba. Another Dan does occasionally post here as well, however, but all the above "Dan" comments are mine.
Salud,
Dan Moriarty
They're moving Seattle to Cochabamba!?!?
To all commenters, after all of the witty repartee/slashing editorial wit, what IS happening with respect to the water supply in La Paz? Are people getting reliable water flow for decent price after all of the hoo-ha? After all of the death, mayhem, political uproar/fallout, was it worth it? Did things change for the better or not? Does anyone know? Does Jim know?
Grindio,
You made a couple a grave mistakes. First of all Kellogg MBA's are the bigges p*ssies out of all the MBA's. Your story would have been different had you been at Stern, Wharton, or even CBS. Kellogg people are about giving hugs and not being confrontational.
Your second mistake was an apparent lack of understanding of business ethics (something that Jim is also guilty of). You see in the business world, your obligation is to serve shareholders (maximizing profits) while observing the law (please don't digress talking about Enron). Under this framework, her company should be applauded for what they did in Bolivia. If a country allows you to pollute the water and kill the first born, as a manager it is your ethical obligation to do so if it even means that you will make a couple of extra bucks. It is actually wrong not to take adavantage of this. It takes awhile, even for top MBA students to get around this concept, but it does makes sense. A business should never ever be in the business of determining social policy, or enforcing morals. It is the gov't and the citizens duty to make sure they have the propper laws in the books, businesses' duty is to obey these laws.
Finally, it sounds like you lacked tact. Nobody wants to be around someone who will call you a baby murderer. I have attended literally hundreds of events like that seminar before I figured out how to manage people there. As a matter of fact during the last Hispanic MBA conference, I was expounding the same view you did, but I did it in such a way that people wanted to hear more. They would bring their friends, introduce them to me and ask for more details. Form is sometimes more important than substance.
I get such a kick from these forums. In the real world, most think I'm a socialist, but in the blogsphere I'm to the right of Goni... hilarious.
ps. I hope you had a chance to stop by Buffalo Joe's, best wings in the whole plante.
pps. Tambopaxi: People are worse off.
ppps. Jack: listen to the Frontline documentary, it says the WB was against the deal. Look beyond what Jim says or posts.
Daniel the ……; I prefer, Dan the mazist, could you please tell me when Jim wrote anything “cultural”?, further more, when he writes anything different than his opinion about political events is because the events that are happening do not go along to what he preaches; and he is being trying to preach and influence political events in Bolivia for several years; as a matter of fact, that is his job!. Off course he isn’t going to become Bolivia’s second political refuge whilst in democracy so long he keeps helping the regime.
You really think having Betchel was being in a status quo? come on, inform yourself a little bit; status quo is what is happening at this moment with the water issue in Cochabamba and is what was happening before Betchel, which is, nothing!; At least in terms of improving the water service to people in the city. The willingness of the people of Cochabamba to struggle never existed, what existed was the willingness of the Coordinadora del Agua to take advantage of a political moment where turmoil was and advantage to benefit economically and to gain possible political power to be use in the future. Something that happened and was paid by the MAS party when Evo named one of the most important member of the Coordinadora and first SEMAPA manager after Betchel, to the MAS candidacy for the Cochabamba Prefect elections and after the people did not choose him, converted the Coordinadora protégée into his Second Hydrocarbon minister, we know how that went.
Don, there is a book recently written by Roberto Leserna , is titled “La democracia en el ch’enko”, where he clearly explains what is happening in Bolivia today en relation to politics, economics and the social movements; I hope you can read Spanish because I doubt any NGO will translate it to English. It has an interesting chapter about the real reasons off the Water War; I will share the following toughs of the author:
“The contract, with Betchel under Aguas del Tunari, started with tax hikes, as Jim claims, designated to stop several years of subvention, something Jim never said, and obligated judicial modifications over the ways water was administrated in Bolivia as a justification for having a market with such monetary investment. (Misicuni mostly and something Jim will never mention).
The reaction didn’t wait. Before the year ended the government had to end the contract with Aguas del Tunari, something Jim bragged about over a couple of years, and had to change the legislation in relation to water and basic services to satisfy the demands of individual water right owners and communal proprietary’s of water wells and water deposits.
This was possible because the effected by the concessions and the law were able to take over the control of the Water Defense Committee, which was initially made off environmentalists and independent professionals. And then created from there the Coordinadora del Agua. The main institution that controlled the Coordinadora was the Regantes Federation, a group of individuals, communities and associates with water irrigation access and control. This movement becomes stronger when the Fabriles Federation united. The cocaleros actually united this mess after total chaos was over the city, so their participation was mostly to continue the violence, but not to start it like usually.
As you can all read, the Water War is about a few individuals not wanting to loose the economic control of their water rights during a period of a very weak and fragile government. Misicuni was still in the making and no water from it was given to the city on those times as it is today; one of the reasons the Coordinadora has no more power in Cochabamba today anymore.
Jack, in effect, Jim doesn’t write happily about the DC’s glorious days during the water war, its major and perhaps only success because his remedy turned out to be worst then the disease. You would understand better returning 7 years ago in his blogs.
Grindiota, you are back, what can I said; nothing, since that is the only thing that can come out of nothing. Let me see, “appalled”, “exploitation of Bolivia's poor”, “societal change from the bottom up through grassroots movements”. You sound like you were sitting in Jim’s lap instead off inside your dungeon in California. I do not have any doubts by now that you are not Bolivian; hell, you cannot even write in Spanish, but it is kind of strange that you appeared in this blog just when Jim needed somebody to defend his un defendable positions the most; Dan just don’t make the cut. Long are gone the Culito Blanco and other few that could not handle the true about his hero, and then it appeared Grindiota; very interesting.
BL, like I said I have no knowledge of this water matter, so abstain from holding any view. If & when I get time to look at this properly I’ll bear in mind the Leserna book suggestion, thanks.
Gotta head off now, if I may take brief advantage of your knowledge of things there to ask a couple of simple questions…
- is water, that most fundamental of resources, available to everyone in Cbba in an affordable manner (ie also the poor)?
- if it isn’t don’t you think this could be another reason for those poor not to be so happy about things?
The impression from your post was that the water was entirely about political & economic power. I can find it credible that in a poor country like Bolivia even things like water can become battlegrounds for political & economic power… but was it only that?
Not having water, or not being able to have it affordably, can also make people pretty mad about things, I just wonder…
Jack
Ps. Go easier on Dan & Grindio BL if you can, this blog ain’t a battle between two sides buddy… we don’t always have to agree, & listening to other point of views doesn’t do us any harm. Mereckons you yourself are bigger than you sometimes appear to be, you could even cross a line occasionally, no shame in that my friend… the barricades are often in our heads… and that’s a shame when the head could be a smart-thinking one…
Ha - moving Seattle to Cochabamba! Ah, the importance of commas. Mia culpa... Hey, do you think they really could do that, though? It would sure simplify my life! And Jim could finally get bagels, and Starbucks could start serving mate de coca! It would solve that whole puertos del Pacifico issue, too. Unfortunately, what's the only company that could probably pull off the engineering involved in actually moving an entire metropolitan area to another continent? Bechtel.
Cochabamba Facts:
It’s always wise to hear from both sides. If you are interested in this subject see the following link published by Bechtel in March 2005.
http://www.bechtel.com/pdf/cochabambafacts0305.pdf
This way you will understand better the case of “Aguas del Tunari” and Bechtel
cheers, …
Jim,
…. “Unfortunately, his spin in favor of the transnationals reminds me of the anger I felt when at a seminar I met a recent grad from Northwestern Univiersity's business school who was working for an international consulting firm. When she learned I was from Bolivia, she exclaimed how incredibly profitable and cheap had been their client's purchase of a privatized public entity. (I think it was Bolivian Power.) I told her I was appalled because those profits were an exploitation of Bolivia's poor. And after I spoke about the need for societal change from the bottom up through grassroots movements, she and her formerly friendly fellow yuppies avoided me like the plague. My message was not in agreement with their values.”….
You make your fictitious “Grindio” character appear as an idiot with a huge inferiority complex. You need to heighten him up a little.. ; )
Water is our most valuable resource, as it is our life source. However, I don't think removing betchel has improved the living conditions of Cochabambinos. As far as I know, those who can afford it have acquired pumping utilities, and those who live in poverty will not even get SEMAPA to provide water for them.
As far as I know, the main problem with the water companies in Bolivia was that the Government(s) expected the companies to take in the costs of the much needed subsidies in poorer areas. I am trying to say, that the Government wouldn't subsidize the poor for the extra costs building infrastructure would infer in their tariffs. Even though I am much of liberal, and don't believe in much government intervention, I do think that governments should provide an environment of equal opportunities, with access to health and education, which includes potable water. No company (as they are all business oriented, money making) would agree to subsidize the poor themselves. Bolivians must start realizing that nothing in this world is free... But those Bolivians that do know that nothing is free must realize that not all Bolivians have doors open to great opportunities.
Jack,
Dan is cool; I actually take in account a lot more of what he writes than it looks like. E-G is just young, dumb and fool of s…; but it is a great example of who the hard core anti globalization zealots thinks, so I just push him to write his exacerbations, and he is just too easy to push.
In response to your question, no Jack, poor Bolivians, the real poor that do not have potable water connection and thus cannot protest for a water bill hike; are not having it better now than 7 years ago. Betchel was not even allowed to work in the city for a year and the water war was a question of keeping the control of the water by a few, not by the many.
Water for those poor people is also more expensive then for those that have potable water, in terms of acquisition power and health. They buy it from water cisterns that nobody knows were they obtain their water, if you stand to the side of one of them it smells like fish. No control of the cleaning of these cisterns is performed and they are simply not regulated. The people receive the water in drums, but very few have one that is appropriate to handle water, most drums are used and originally had some chemicals, the plastic ones that are most common contained acids or corrosive chemicals before being used as a water container.
To humanize what I just wrote to you I will take other paragraph of Roberto Leserna’s book, “La democracia en el ch’enko”. “In the old part (downtown Cochabamba) and in the North East of the city, where the water system of potable water reaches more than 80% of the households, the infant mortality rate is relatively low; 4.5% of the children die before they reached one year old. In the other extreme is the South zone, here less than half of the households have potable water connections. In this area the infant mortality rate is of 14.57% of children dieing before reaching one year.”
In these past 7 years the Coordinadora del Agua has lost street power because they are happy receiving their pay at the end of the month without doing a thing to improve SEMAPA, as I linked it earlier, they actually have the company owning several millions to Misicuni; the company that today provides most of the water to SEMAPA. At the end, the Regantes were the only winners of all this mess. First they profited from the control of the water before Misicuni produced and now they have secured a fat easy check, since nobody is controlling them.
People will not rise up against them because for things like the water war to happen, the economy of somebody must be affected to star rolling the ball against the pins. The romantic idea of people rising up against the abusive is just that, a romantic fictional novel that the anti globalizationist dreams to convert in reality.
thanks for the link to the PDF
I'm certain that Jim won't include any of that in his book. After all he won't want the world to know that he was a puppet for the corrupt elite in this case.
Anon. above,
Actually The Democracy Center responded to Bechtel's claims in great detail a long time ago, here:
http://democracyctr.org/bechtel/waterbills/waterbills-global.htm
But if it gives you comfort to believe Bechtel's false statements, you are certainly welcome to.
It should be pointed out that the protests in 2000 were over new laws regarding water throughout the department, as well as the specific Aguas del Tunari/Bechtel contract. So poor people who didn't receive Semapa city water were, indeed, affected. This included rural farmers, who would suddenly have to begin metering and paying for rain water they channeled into irrigation ditches (I honestly forget whether they, too, would have been paying Aguas del Tunari, or some other entity). Also, a couple people above have implied that all of the people Semapa doesn't reach would have had no stake in the water conflict, which is inaccurate. Part of the concession Aguas del Tunari received in their single-bidder, closed-door negotiations with Manfred, et al., was that all of the ground water in Cochabamba was also their property. This meant that people like my father-in-law, who had dug their own wells, would then have to put meters on those wells (at their own expense), and begin paying Aguas del Tunari for the water they took out of the wells (at the new, elevated rates).
Again, it is faulty logic at best to argue that the ineptitudes of the current SEMAPA administration reflect in any way on the merits or flaws of the privatization deal and the new water laws people were protesting in 1999/2000.
(I think this is a common error - I've seen it a lot here, too, with regard to most aspects of the Evo administration -- rather than criticize policy on its own merits or principles, people set up their critiques in such a way as to imply that the current government was not preceded by decades (and, in a broader sense, centuries) of corruption, abuse, ineptitude, failed policy, and ensuing suffering for a majority of Bolivians. Evo cannot use the abuses of his predecessors to justify abuses of his own, but neither should anyone pretend that Evo's inability to bring about utopia in a year somehow proves that the old way was better.
long gone? me temo que no señor bolivia libre. but thanks for keeping me in your heart!
Anon 404,
Given the of believing a guy like Jim, who is not accountable to anyone, vs. a public statement that could have been entered as evidence in a trial. I'll take my chances with Bechtel's word.
Yeah, I bet you would have believed Bechtel when they pledged that their Boston Big Dig tunnel was all hunky dorey too, well, before it started collapsing on cars. Did you believe there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq too?
When in doubt, believe a big corporation. Or you could check the facts. What precisely in those from the Democracy Center do you find in error and on what basis?
Hilarious...gotta love how you bring other unrelevant topics into the conversation. Typical demagogue, though I gotta give you credit for not mentioning Enron or the protocols of zion.
Jim's page hardly answers all the points raised by Bechtel. Besides their "methodology" is based on numbers provided by a leader of the revolt. So if you don't want to give any credidibility to Bechtel's word, what in Jim's record makes him believeable? Bechtel's statement could have cost the arbritation case. Jim's and the people that provided the numbers on the other hand had nothing to loose and everything to gain by accidentally not including all the numbers on their analysis.
You have a guy who has yet to say anything against the attacks on the free press. He looked the other way when the MAS used dynamite to break up a peaceful protest in the SF cathedral. Has not said anything against Evo's undying support for the only dictator in the western hemisphere. Even the way the AC has been handled has not been addressed. Has he ever talked about the abuses the syndicates put on their members? Or how about distributing his "democracy manual" to the cuban doctors. If this center is a defender of democracy, then Fox news is indeed fair and balanced.
To the Anon. above,
I had to do a graduate level paper on this case and check out both Bechtel's and the Democracy Center's data.
In the Bechtel report you posted they say that the maximum increase for the poorest group of water users was 10%. The Center site has scanned actual bills showing increases in the r-2 category of 60%.
http://www.democracyctr.org/bechtel/waterbills/index.htm
Additionally, the sources on The Center site are from the water bills not the Water Revolt leaders. The Center's data was also cited by The New Yorker and PBS. I guess, unlike you, they actually looked at the numbers.
Do the math my friend, a Bechtel lie is a Bechtel lie. If you can't read properly that is your problem.
According to Bechtel:
Bechtel owns 50 percent of International Water, and International Water owns 55 percent of Aguas del Tunari; hence Bechtel's 27.5 percent interest in Aguas del Tunari. All you socialist worker party types, does that sound right?
Reference this URL: http://www.bechtel.com/newsarticles/65.asp
I know this is obvious, but sometimes the obvious needs to be said, LOUD AND CLEAR. Has anyone ever noticed the little waste basket next to every toilet in Latin America? Why? BECAUSE THE SEWER SYSTEMS AREN'T MAINTAINED Has anyone come down with any intestinal problem after drinking tap water in Latin America? Why? BECAUSE THE WATER SYSTEMS ARE CONTAMINATED BECAUSE OF POOR MAINTENANCE. Is Bechtel responsible for these infrastucture deficiencies common throughout LA? I don't think so. Has anyone at the Democracy Center or any of its supporters ever considered that the whole Water War thing is more of a Latin American issue as opposed to a greedy big foreign corporation issue?
Dan, you are practically implying the water sources, which most of us accept as very important assets, should not be regulated; let the anarchy continue is what you proposed. What if your father in law neighbor decides to install a bigger pump and lives him without water. Yes, my friend Dan, all civilizations had and currently have laws that control their water resource, the ones currently in Cochabamba benefit only a few families. If not for Misicuni; the project of your hated Manfred, even the people connected to SEMAPA’s inappropriate water system will be buying water from the cisterns today. Why do you think the owners of these cisterns were in the first line of opposition to the Bechtel contract?
Pages of suppositions have being written about the economic damage to the poor people, from the ones that the few peasant communities in the Tunari park will have to pay for their water to the fathers in law that will have “somebody” sticking a meter in his private well. For your tranquility, and your father’s in law, if the model ever comes back; the idea was to make water cheaper than using electricity to pump it from a well that is not deep enough to ensure uncontaminated water. The only problem will be for those that use their “private” wells commercially, and only if they want to continue doing business lawlessly.
On the ones discussing Jim’s FACTS, please go back at the link it was provided about the DC facts; it clearly states that the percentage increase he is using as a FACT comes from a MODEL made by, SEMAPA; the company that was going to be, “replaced”. Other important thing is Jim’s comparing the amount of money increased in the bills with the Bolivian minimum wage that nobody was making in Bolivia in those times as is not making today. For example, the poorest of the poor that had to pay Bs.1.22 a day for their Bechtel “increased” water bill would have absolutely no problem to pay for it and would have the chance to get sewage in the future. Today they probably pay the lower tariff, if they are not in Spain, consume dirty water and their children are getting sick from the hole in the ground they use as a toilet, I guess Jim thinks health or burials are cheap in Bolivia.
I am not surprised today, as I was not surprised 7 years ago, about the percentages increased in our bills because we were paying nothing to obtain nothing. The water war did not saved money to the Cochabambino poor. As a matter of fact, I couldn’t find any comparison between the Bechtel’s tariff per litter (or gallon) and the tariff the real poor; the ones that do not have water connection pay to the water cistern. Not even a model; could it be because the owners of the water cisterns, which also own water wells, were at Jim’s side during the Water War?
Thanks for the various info BL.
One thing I don’t get. According to Bechtel, one reason why the prices had to be hiked so much was due to the additional requests made by the Cbba municipality & the Bolivian government which hadn’t been initially contemplated. Four of these were specifically mentioned by Bechtel:
• The municipality in particular insisted the Misicuni dam be built during the first two years of Aguas del Tunari’s contract.
• The municipality wanted the consortium to repay SEMAPA’s previously accumulated debt and roll that cost into the rate structure.
• The municipality also insisted that Aguas del Tunari sign and execute a contract for construction of a treatment plant that the consortium thought excessively expensive and unnecessary.
• In addition, the state decided that Aguas del Tunari must pay for using the tunnel under construction, and the municipality decided to charge the consortium for the existing SEMAPA assets.
These factors explain 50% of the price increases according to Bechtel, who were against these ideas they say, as they knew the resulting price hikes would cause problems in Cbba, but had to cede to the Negotiating Committee to get the deal. Subsequently the municipality, by not making the agreed information campaign to inform Cochabambinos of this decision, severely aggravated the whole situation, as the hikes took the city by surprise, nobody having explained where the extra money the citizens were being charged was going…
If that’s true it sounds to me like the government in charge at the time (Banzer I think) & the Cbba municipality (headed by Manfred?) were seriously to blame for the uprest, and basically put Bechtel right into the shit, as they were always going to carry the can for all this... Why? The usual Bolivian political incompetence?...
I repeat I have no knowledge of this situation & am simply reporting what Bechtel stated in the PDF document posted by Anon 8,59. But if it’s true then the picture I get is of a mess made in great part by the government & municipality, not explained to anyone, & hence always likely to be exploited by political & social forces in Cbba. Who may have exploited the people’s unhappiness about the increases, but certainly didn’t cause it….
One last thing, I can follow & agree with a lot of your reasoning BL, but not on your questioning of the DC’s facts which you imply came from a suspect model designed by Semapa. From what I’ve seen of the DC’s price comparison it was done in a way simply to filter out the consumption variable. Why? Because Bechtel said that the extra money billed was in great measure due to increased water consumption by cochambabinos.... The DC, using actual water bill data from Semapa (what source of data could possibly be more pertinent than that?), & simply applying the pre & post Bechtel water rates, showed that this wasn’t the case…
http://www.democracyctr.org/bechtel/waterbills/waterbills-global.htm
Jack
Jack,
Usually don't agree with you much, but in your last post you made some of the points I wanted to use to reply to "graduate level" anon.
There were other things that went into the bills that are not broken down into the final total. I would add to your list inflation and an appreciating dollar. Jim model is too simplistic as it ignores all of these factors. I take the position that this is intentional. I give the model the same credibility as saying the performance of the Dow depends on whether or not Liz Taylor gets married or if the NFC wins the Superbowl. The scanned bills as well could have been selected for a particular reason.
My position, so that "graduate level" anon won't define me as a neo con, is that Bechtel was caught in a bad situation. Politicians tied their hands and did not properly explain set expectations with the people. It became a perfect storm where there where strange bedfellows (I still stand by my statement that Jim was manipulated by cistern owners and populist leaders with political ambitions) were made. Finally there are industries/services that will never be profitable and should be provided by the government. You add rural electrification to the list. Telecom used to be there, but Entel is doing a wonderful job there.
We can learn a lot about the MAS by their choice of industries to nationalize. My two biggest dissappointment with the regime is how they put Venezuela's & Cuba's interests above Bolivia and the lack of a "blood, toil, tears and sweat" speech and instead we get this andean supremacy theme going.
Maybe Morales should invite the Cubans or Venezuelans in to run the water system in Cochabamba, or possibly the Russians or Chinese. I mean aren't these countries the ideal states, the patrons of little Bolivia. Or for sure, Jim’s buddies, the ones he writes about when he says THE GLOBAL COALITION THAT BEAT BACK BECHTEL, yeah THE GLOBAL COALITION THAT BEAT BACK BECHTEL, surely they should be able to get a little municipal water system up and running.
The bottom line here folks, is that it was more important to the Socialists like Jim and THE COALITION THAT BEAT BACK BECHTEL, to shame and defeat Bechtel, a symbol of corporate America, than it was to allow Bechtel to deliver clean abundant water to ALL the people of Cochabamba. Remember – the end justifies the means.
To Don, BL and all the ranters here:
Please at least update your language. Now you are supposed to label everyone you disagree with call people "terrorists" not "communists". That is so 1980s.
But you all do entertain me to know end. Silly boys with too much time on their hands.
Also, I am pretty sure that the Demoicracy Center is funded by Al Queada (or was it Putin?), you might check into that.
Anon 1:21,
Nobody used that language, at least on this thread. You do raise a good point regarding DC's operations. It would be interesting to see the finances of the DC. Let's hope Jim is not one of the gringoes that comes to Bolivia and gives himself a +$2,000/mo salary like many of these so called advocates of the poor.
The reason why we take this seriously is because Bolivia is our land and we love it.
To BL:
Just for the record in case anyone does a search on his work, the correct name of the author of the book you referenced is Roberto Laserna (not Leserna), a well rated columnist in Bolivian newspapers.
To Dan:
Rain water is free was free and always will be free, you confuse “concession” with “their property” …, water bills reflect the cost of bringing water to your home and collecting used water from your home, treating it and finally disposing it to a river. If your father in law is connected to the city’s sewer system, then it’s appropriate to meter the amount of water he is pumping from his well and pay to the water company accordingly (Aguas del Tunari or Semapa) for using the city’s sewer system.
Anonymous, I labeled Jim a socialist, not a communist. It amuses me how you leftist are so touchy about being exposed. I guess Evo Morales isn’t a socialist. Do you know what the S in MAS stands for? Isn’t Jim a supporter of Morales? Need more proof, here’s a piece written by the DC that appeared in the ‘new Socialist’ -http://www.newsocialist.org/index.php?id=1231
To Jack: 9:04
Some hints to further your search in explaining the “Bechtel/Aguas del Tunari” and water for Cochabamba fiasco.
- When you write:
“I repeat I have no knowledge of this situation & am simply reporting what Bechtel stated in the PDF document posted by Anon 8,59. But if it’s true then the picture I get is of a mess made in great part by the government & municipality, not explained to anyone, & hence always likely to be exploited by political & social forces in Cbba. Who may have exploited the people’s unhappiness about the increases, but certainly didn’t cause it….”
You are correct; the roots of the problem are elsewhere among them I can mention:
A) Proyecto Múltiple Misicuni
B) Bolivian Politics
“Proyecto Multiple Misicuni” is basically a very expensive and long range project, was dreamed up more than 30 years ago and became “taboo” in Cochabamba, it had to be made, yes or yes, and no matter what or at what cost (as long as the cochabambinos don’t pay extra for it). Along the way, in one of those famous “paros civicos” (typical of Bolivian Politics), the project was declared a National Priority; this implies that the Central Government should finance it.
National Election of 1997: During the Presidential Campaign, there was a heated debate about Misicuni, civic and local authorities, demanded from presidential candidates to sign a “pledge”, that, if elected, they will go forward with the project. Banzer among others signed the pledge. MNR who was in favor of a less costly project “Corani” didn’t.
As you already know Banzer became President (Manfred’s party was part of Banzer’s coalition government), but it was impossible for the central government to finance the project, neither they could ask Cochabambinos to pay extra for it (political suicide) then, they had the “bright” idea of using Bechtel as a buffer between the government and the people, … .
Misicuni, has a long and tortuous economic and political history. Even today, we find the Central Government charging the Prefecture for past debt related to the project (disregarding it was a National Priority project?) and SEMAPA not paying “Empresa Misicuni” for water coming from the project.
Hope the above helps to answer some of your questions,…
To Anon 2:17
Grad paper writer:
There are four Residential Categories: R1, R2, R3 and R4.
The poorest are in category R1 (not R2).
If you check the rate increase for R1, don’t be surprised to find out are the ones posted by Bechtel.
Anon. above.
I checked this fact with SEMAPA in my research. R1 is empty property without housing or residents. The categories for the poorest, based on house size, is R2.
If you are going ti debate these points you mind find it worthwhile to get your facts straight, no?
Thanks very much Anon 6,28, interesting & most appreciated. As your answers lead to more questions, & I don’t right now have the time to look at this affair with the time it needs, if I could just count on your advice for a good source that tells the whole story fairly reliably. I’m personally quite intrigued to hear the DC’s version of events, in their new book perhaps, plus a read-up one day of the articles they’ve published already, the various qualms already expressed by others aside it looks like it’s a topic they’ve covered with a certain amount of detail… would you personally consider it a good place to be looking? To be complemented by something else perhaps?
Any precious tips most welcome for those proverbial rainy evenings… :-)
All the best & many thanks again,
Jack
Dear Readers:
Forget the frivilous banter between the hens above about "water rates", causality, Bechtel and what is the appropriate ad hominem attack in the post-Bush era (commie, socialist or "terrorist"). The key issue before you was addressed to Jim and set forth succinctly as follows:
"You make your fictitious “Grindio” character appear as an idiot with a huge inferiority complex. You need to heighten him up a little.. ; )"
Therefore, in agreement with the above, I state my position:
Yeah, Jim, you should "heighten" me "up a little"!
I just don't remember the last time a blog post here got 50 comments, and I thought it would be cool to be #50. Hooray for me! I'm number fifty! Hooray for us! We argue a lot on a blog!
Oh, also: Evo, Evo, IMF, Chavez, media luna, revolution, oligarchy, lefty blah blah angry blah Bechtel.
Also: hey, anonymous: you are totally wrong.
What really intrigues me is the real possibility that Jim gets into these rough and tumble discussions either as an anonymous writer or by using a pseudonym. And is he's using a pseudonym, I'd bet he using Dan as his pen name.
To Jack: 8:06
A lot has been said and written about the Cochabamba water war, but to really understand what happened, it’s necessary to look for the real roots of the problem. I suggest, to add the following lines of research to the ones mentioned in my previous post.
C) Chronic corruption and inefficiencies (particularly in state managed organizations).
D) The role of International org. (FMI, WB, …).
E) History of SEMAPA, before and after “Aguas del Tunari”.
Can’t mention a single source “that tells the whole story fairly reliable”, I can only suggest reading from various sources and points of view and finally draw your own conclusions. We are all biased one way or another on these subjects.
Sources:
If you can read Spanish, try CEDIB (Centro de Documentacion e Informacion Bolivia), this is a non-profit NGO.
www.cedib.org
Their web page still needs a lot of work to be done, but they have SIBI (Servicio Integral de Busqueda de Informacion). If you write to them, they will search the information you need.
Also, I suggest the following paper:
http://www.psiru.org/reports/Cochabamba.doc
It has the merit of being published in June 2000, when memory of the events was fresh.
Cheers, and enjoy those “proverbial rainy evenings …” the more you learn the more questions you will have.
I try not to respond to things I think are silly or personal in these threads, but I would just point out to Don that, if I am a creation of Jim Shultz, then A)Jim's gone to a LOT of trouble, including securing his fictitious alter-ego a job on another continent, etc. (I am one of the few people here who not only does not use a pseudonym, but occasionally mentions my surname; a couple clicks away from any one of my posted comments is my photo, bio, phone number in Seattle, etc. - I leave this information accessible not because I think I'm that important to you, but because I know I'm not, so I don't feel the need to hide); and B)it becomes even more baffling to me how some commenters here can simultaneously believe that Jim's writings on this blog are so influential as to constitute a significant threat, on the one hand, and on the other hand be so convinced that nobody else could possibly share any of Jim's crazy ideas that when a commenter seems sympathetic to them, s/he is assumed to be Jim himself in disguise.
Believe me, if Jim is taking time away from his book editing, not to write new blog posts but to add to these comment threads the kind of goofiness I've posted above, then the threat has been neutralized, as he's officially committed himself to wasting his time.
As it stands in the real world, only I have done that.
this is a trip...
Cochalas have been known not only in Bolivia but also in the continent for their prowess in uprisings and civil unrest since before independence.
The Bechtel deal IMO was a clusterf$$k from the start. It is too easy a target in Bolivia.
Evo shrewdly jumped on this bandwagon. His real beef was with those valuable Coca fields in Chapare being seriously reduced to the point where the narcotics kingpins might be facing a shortage of their key raw materials.
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