Chavez Deports Representatives of Human Rights Watch from Venezuela
Late Thursday, Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez sent armed men to detain two researchers from Human Rights Watch and deport then from the country, following release of a 230-page report critical of the government’s human rights record.“About 20 men, some of them in military uniform, intercepted us when we arrived at our hotel after returning from dinner Thursday night,” José Miguel Vivanco, HRW’s Americas director told the New York Times. Vivanco and Daniel Wilkinson, HRW’s deputy director for the Americas, were forced onto an overnight flight to Brazil.
The Report from Human Rights Watch, “A Decade Under Chávez,” was released Thursday in Caracas. It charges: “In its efforts to counter political opposition and consolidate power, the government of President Hugo Chávez has weakened democratic institutions and human rights guarantees in Venezuela.” In particular the report criticizes the Venezuelan government for its infringement of the autonomy of the judiciary and its persecution of dissent.
Those readers who feel an affinity to Chávez historic revolution to redistribute Venezuelan wealth towards the nation’s impoverished should not too quickly dismiss either Human Rights Watch, it report, or the significance of Chávez’s ousting of the two researchers.
First, Human Rights Watch is not a right-wing organization with an agenda. Readers might recall that during the most repressive days of the War on Drugs here in Bolivia, HRW was one of the few foreign organizations, alongside WOLA, that was doing investigations and putting the public spotlight on that repression. My impression of them then is the same as it is now – a group dedicated to rigorous research that lets the cards fall where they may in terms of who’s political ox gets gored.
Second, regardless of what we like or don’t like in a government’s policies, free dissent is essential. My commitment to that is evidenced here on the Blog where, for many years, our comments section has remained an uncensored space, one far more critical of what I write than supportive. I value being challenged, and so should governments of any political stripe. Stifling dissent is not a progressive value, not in Bolivia or the U.S. either.
I hope that readers who have more knowledge of Venezuela than I will offer their comments and critique of the HRW report in this space. If there are inaccuracies in it, let’s hear them. In my view, documenting those inaccuracies would have also been a better road for the Venezuelan government to take than sending armed men to deport two researchers.
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Perhaps Jim's most balanced and thoughtful post ever. And the first I'd wholeheartedly agree with.
No, I wouldn't say Jim's post is balanced. Naive maybe.
Here's the report posted at Venezuela Analysis:
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news/3813
[quoting the Human Rights Watch report in question],
"Specifically, the government has engaged in "discrimination on political grounds," "open disregard for the principle of separation of powers," and has "undercut journalists' freedom of expression, workers' freedom of association, and civil society's ability to promote human rights in Venezuela," according to the report, which bases its conclusions on interviews conducted over the past two years."
[This seems harsh and unbalanced in the extreme. I'm sure there are some excesses; but compared to most countries in Latin America?
[In reply,
the U.S.-based Venezuelan Information Office (VIO) says,]
"the HRW report portrays isolated incidents in Venezuela as though they were common occurrences, and "reads like the talking points of Venezuela's discredited opposition."
The VIO further pointed out that the "most fundamental" human rights to food, education, and health care have been expanded in Venezuela, and that this has been recognized by the United Nations Development Program."
[And further:]
"The Venezuelan representative in the Inter-American Human Rights Court, Germán Saltrón, said the accusations of political discrimination in the report are contradicted by the fact that the people who participated in the coup against Chávez in April 2002 were granted amnesty."
[HRW in Bolivia may act progressively; but I have seen reports of their blatant bias and meddling in other countries, such as Eastern Europe.
By the way, while on the subject of the "peace Corps," there have also been recent admissions by some volunteers that they were approached by the CIA to spy for them, no?
Did you not post those reports yourself, Jim?
You seem to be forgetting that.]
Here's another, more in-depth review of that report.
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/3812
I admire your commitment to non-violence and fair-play Jim; but when the other side do not play fair, (when they are, in fact, fascistic thugs) it's very difficult to move forward without stepping on some constitutional toes.
All considered, I think Chavez is doing a fine job. He can be arrogant at times, a bit of a blow-hard, (such as when he issued dire warnings about people having to support him in the last lost referendum. A mistake, obviously, which he and his people are having to deal with).
At any rate, whether or not he's for real comes down not so much to him, but whether he is empowering the people at the grassroots level to take over the leadership.
The communal-councils say it all: a revolutionary, community-based transformation from the ground up, being sponsored by the government.
Unheard of; and something which every right-wing thug or know-nothing is bitterly opposed to.
keep up the good work.
peace.
'roo.
This article appears in the November 21, 2003 issue of Executive Intelligence Review.
Soros Has Dumb Dems
Diving for Dope Dollars
by Scott Thompson
If financier George Soros, who is trying to buy out the Democratic Party, and his Republican twin, George P. Shultz, the godfather of the neo-conservative fascists who run the Bush Administration, have their way, mind-destroying drugs will be legal in the United States within 4-5 years. In turn, this legalization will be forced upon other nations under the rubric of "free trade," and globalization. It is part of the Synarchist International's war against civilization.
This was the message delivered at the bi-annual conference of George Soros's Drug Policy Alliance (DPA), at the Sheraton Meadowsland Hotel in New Jersey from Nov. 6-8. Throughout the three days, when away from the cameras and the tape recorders, speaker after speaker called for the legalization of drugs, and gleefully discussed how they would implement it, all the time whispering that legalization has to be "kept separate" from Soros's latest front-end operation: the takeover of the Democratic Party of the United States.
On Oct. 27, Democratic Party Presidential candidate for 2004 Lyndon LaRouche warned against the Soros operation to buy up the Democratic Party. "We caught them dead to rights," said LaRouche. "They're pushing drugs, which is what George Soros is doing. And Soros is trying to buy the Democratic Party with the proceeds of his policy.... My line is that any Democrat who takes Soros's money, perhaps should think about retiring. Or the very least, admit that they are taking that money.... I, as a Democratic candidate, say that anybody who is taking money from Soros ought to know what Soros's policies are. And then: What do they have to say about drugs? Are they, in one sense or another, actually drug pushers? And if so, why, they should say so; put that on their campaign website: 'I am a drug-pusher. I'm pushing cocaine.' "
Just two weeks later, on Nov. 10 and 11, Soros's buy-up of the Democratic Party suddenly became the hottest political news: in the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, the London Guardian, CBS News, and the National Review. After LaRouche associates had exposed the Soros/Democratic Party alliance as a "Cheney protection racket" (see EIR, Nov. 14), Soros went into high gear and high drama. In an interview, he declared that defeating George W. Bush in 2004 "is a matter of life and death," and "the central feature of [his] life." Soros, the megaspeculator, who has destroyed Third World nations' currencies and economies, poured out crocodile tears, and said he loses sleep every night, because "America, under Bush, is a danger to the world. If necessary, I would give more money." Then, giving Soros the cover he needs to become "the opposition," the Republican National Committee criticized him through spokeswoman Christine Iverson, who complained, "George Soros has purchased the Democratic Party."
What all these stories about Soros's "war" against Bush leave out, is that George Soros is the biggest drug legalizer in the the United States, and probably in the world. The role he is playing in the 2004 elections is even more sinister—to attack Bush, while leaving the Cheney imperial apparatus intact.
The 'Two Georges'
George Soros is not a Democrat. He is, like Shultz, a high-level operative of the "Synarchists," the international fascist movement created in the 1780s in reaction against the American Revolution, to impose "beast-man" dictators from Napoleon Bonaparte, to Adolf Hitler, to Vice President Dick Cheney. The Synarchist International (see "Synarchy vs. America," EIR, Sept. 5) is the heart of the drug and terrorism operations that are used to destabilize most of the nations targetted by Dick Cheney's cabal today.
Soros is actually part of the Cheney operation, by virtue of Soros's alliance with fellow drug legalizer Shultz, the man who created the Bush Administration. Shultz assembled, in 2000, the team of Halliburton's Cheney and of the neo-con Likudniks Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle, to control then-candidate George W. Bush. The pre-emptive nuclear war policy of the Bush Administration that Soros says is a "danger to the world," was created by Soros's own cohort, Shultz. According to eyewitness accounts at Soros's Drug Policy Alliance conference, it was Shultz who created North America's biggest "legalized" dope operation in Vancouver, British Columbia—which is now being used by Soros's DPA as the model of models for North and South America. From that conference, EIR can also report that Shultz and Soros have been working together for the last decade, including during the time Shultz created Soros' "enemy," Bush.
According to EIR's Special Report, Bush's Surrender to Dope, Inc., Shultz had already called for drug legalization in an Oct. 7, 1989 address to the Stanford Business School. Shultz told alumni that the time had come "to make it possible for addicts to buy drugs at some regulated place at a price that approximates their cost." He asserted that the "criminal justice approach" to fighting drugs had failed, because what drives the drug trade is simply the economic marketplace. "These [criminal justice] efforts wind up creating a market where the price vastly exceeds the cost. With these incentives, demand creates its own supply and a criminal network along with it.... We're not going to get anywhere until we can take criminality out of the drug business.... We need at least to consider and examine forms of controlled legalization of drugs."
The attention given to the the Soros/Shultz alliance was one of the most startling developments at the DPA conference, which was, admittedly, full of bizarre events. DPA's annual award was given to the current and former Mayors of Vancouver, for establishing on Sept. 21, 2003 the first legal heroin injection center in North America, with a legal cocaine center to follow. And it turned out that the Vancouver model was Shultz's brainchild. The story was told at the session called "Those Wild and Crazy Canadians," where former Vancouver Mayor Philip Owen, who took office in 1993, said that in 1995 he had travelled to the Hoover Institute at Stanford University, for a seminar. There, George Shultz and Soros's protégé, then-Baltimore-Mayor Kurt Schmoke, convinced him that the War on Drugs was a "disaster."
Back in Canada, Mayor Owen opened a similar seminar modelled on the Hoover Institute event, and held dozens of meetings with Vancouver citizens, while coordinating with the Canadian government in Ottawa. What came out of this was the "Four Pillars Declaration" for effective legalization, and Owen, who had been in phone contact with Shultz throughout this period, returned to see Shultz in California, with a Vancouver drug addict at his side, once the declaration had been accepted.
Having served the longest consecutive term of any mayor in Canada, Owen did not run again in 2002. He was succeeded by Larry Campbell, a former member of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, who set out to implement the Shultz/Owen program. While Campbell claimed support from 80-90% of Vancouver citizens, opposition was such that he could not open the first legal heroin injection center in North America until September 2003—eight years after Owen had begun the Shultz drug legalization campaign.
But even with all the hype about "harm reduction," in the short six weeks since the opening, there have already been 20 overdoses (though no deaths). No problem for Campbell, who forecast that "financial breakeven" will be reached if the number of HIV cases among the addicts is less than ten, since it costs $150,000 to treat an HIV/AIDS patient. Next, he promised a legal cocaine center.
At the DPA's conference, Campbell let the cat out of the bag. After a night in which the DPAers kept at him to try marijuana, he agreed he would not bust pot growers in Canada, "because if we did not have those $3 billion [from the pot trade], we'd be in a recession."
A last-minute add-on to the Canadian panel was Philippe Lucas, Director of Vancouver Island Compassion Society/Canadians for Safe Access. He gave a computerized slide presentation that demonstrated the superiority of Vancouver and British Columbia grown marijuana (20% THC content) over that grown in a zinc mine by the government (3% THC)—ostensibly for medical marijuana purposes.
Canadian national Senator Pierre Nolin told the conference that his Senate Special Committee on Illegal Drugs, has issued a comprehensive report calling for the legalization and regulation of marijuana in all of Canada.
It cannot be assumed accidental, that one week before the Soros conference, Forbes magazine—owned and run by Steve Forbes, another Hoover Institute sympathizer and former GOP Presidential candidate—hailed British Colombia's economic pot "boom" on its cover.
'Grass Roots'
The Democratic Party has reinvented the meaning of "grass roots," and is going down for the Soros-connected dope dollars, in the biggest political buyout in decades. Not since the "Southern Strategy" of post-1972, when Democrats picked up on Dick Nixon's embracing the Ku Klux Klan in his 1968 Presidential campaign, have the Democrats embarked on such suicide. It is completely out in the open, that LaRouche's rivals for the Democratic Presidential nomination—especially those most active in keeping LaRouche out of the debates—are all on Soros's dole. Led by Howard Dean, for whom Soros threw a major fundraiser, others of the "nine dwarves" whom Soros supports also include John Kerry, Wesley Clark, and Richard Gephardt, according to the Washington Post. Soros told the Post that the Democrats who set up America Coming Together (ACT), Steve Rosenthal and Ellen Malcolm, "were ready to kiss me," when he told them he would be giving them $10 million, bragging that "Money buys talent."
Soros and his buddy, dope legalizer Peter Lewis, announced on Nov. 10 that they had committed $5 million for a matching-funds program for the "progressive" organization, MoveOn.Org, which earlier this year refused to include LaRouche in its Internet "primary."
As EIR already reported, Soros's front groups are a re-tread of the discredited Democratic Leadership Council (DLC). The Jewish Times on Nov. 11 reported that Soros is working with Michael Steinhardt, the organizer of the Mega group of billionaires, who made his fortune using the organized crime lucre of his father, the fence for Murder, Inc. boss Meyer Lansky. Steinhardt used his money to found the DLC as the "second Republican party." For the DLC, Steinhardt, Soros, and the dope legalizers, LaRouche is "Public Enemy No. 1" because LaRouche's organizing is the Franklin D. Roosevelt tradition. LaRouche is organizing to stop the Democratic Party from "going to pot."
Soros is not the only pot-pusher who is providing the Democrats with big bucks. Co-financing the takeover is fellow drug-legalization financier Peter Lewis, chairman of the Progressive Corp., an Ohio-based insurance company. For more than a decade, Soros and Lewis have poured tens, if not hundreds of millions into a single "grass roots" cause—drug legalization. Together with Arizona Republican moneybags John Sperling, Soros and Lewis poured $30 million into California alone in 1996, to push through the paradigm-shift legislation—"medical marijuana." These three financed decriminalization measures nationwide, and are adoringly referred as "The Funders," by the dopers backing legalization. In 2000, Lewis, the head of the fifth-largest insurance company in the U.S.A., was arrested with hashish and pot in New Zealand, while attending a yacht race for the jet set. He was let off with a "contribution" of $5,000 to a drug rehabilitation center.
Now the Democratic Party, led by hedonistic Baby Boomers devoted to "feeling good," are going for the money from Soros & Lewis, while abandoning those FDR referred to as the "forgotten man"—the lower 80% of the U.S. population suffering under economic depression.
The vehicle for the Soros takeover is a series of organizations called "527's," created after the McCain-Feingold legislation passed to bar "soft money" and special interests. Ironically, the legislation gave even greater power to the super-rich, such as billionaire Soros, by "privatizing" the soft money. Now billionaire pot-lovers like Lewis can buy up organizations like John Podesta's Committee for American Progress (CAP), Americans Coming Together (ACT), the Partnership for American Families (PAF), and the (formerly) radical MoveOn.org.
Baby Boomer Democrats, such as Soros fan Harold Meyerson, editor of the American Prospect, believe that using big, easy money from Soros and Co. is better than organizing real people. Writing in the Washington Post on Nov. 12, Meyerson falsely claimed that Soros was responsible for the landslide victory of Mayor John Street, Democrat of Philadelphia, who had been targetted by Attorney General John Ashcroft, and whose re-election was secured when his campaign called in a deployment of the LaRouche Youth Movement—the envy of Democratic Party hacks across the United States. Meyerson actually attacked the idea of a youth movement. He wrote that Mayor Street, whom he calls not one of the "great American mayors," was saved by Soros's dope money. Now, organizations funded by Soros have "the resources to hire ... as state directors experienced operatives ... not the 25-year-olds who have often run such operations in the underfunded past."
Case Studies in Insanity
Soros has other plans for youth: They're the market for his legalized dope. And, this was clear at the Drug Policy Alliance conference.
Years ago, Soros had hand-picked Ethan Nadelmann, now the head of the DPA, his chief henchman for drug legalization. The DPA is the product of a series of mergers of Soros-funded groups including the Open Society Institute's Lindesmith Center, which Nadelmann originally headed, and the Drug Policy Foundation (DPF). Going back to 1994, at pro-legalization Drug Policy Foundation meetings, this author recalls the cackles of the DPF leadership as they plotted how "medical marijuana" would be the foot-in-the-door for broader legalization schemes. But these drug legalizers are usually slick enough to pose as reformers when TV cameras and tape recorders are on.
But the following case studies from breakout sessions, and other events, of the DPA conference begin to show the dangerous nature of the real Soros agenda.
Case Study I: "MamaCoca": the International Plan. Matthew Briggs, who is Research and Publications Director of the DPA, moderated the panel on "Drug Wars in the Americas: The View from the South." He began with a rousing cheer for the coup that overthrew the elected leader of Bolivia, stating that this was the beginning of a "mass resistance movement to the War on Drugs" in the region. Brazil, Bolivia, and Colombia were each targetted in turn. Dr. Fabio Mesquita of São Paolo, Brazil, after a lunatic and lying history of the drug wars, suggested that a combination of Brazil's Lula, Mexico's Vincente Fox, and the new head of Argentina would ally to break the diktat from Washington for a "War on Drugs".
Jeremy Bigwood, who is purportedly an independent journalist despite having received money from Soros's Open Society Institute, started with a rousing defense of coca as a benign, short-lasting stimulant. He praised the 1901 period when there were coca lozenges, extracts, teas, etc. He complained that a plan by himself and three friends to start growing coca in the United States was stopped by then President Ronald Reagan's War on Drugs.
Bigwood is "on the case" in unstable Bolivia, claiming to be in close contact with Bolivian Evo Morales, Soros's man among the cocoleros, who want to place coca on the same legal basis as coffee and tea, and make it a major trade commodity. The trick that Bigwood and others use to push legalization, is saying that coca should be legal, but its refined product, cocaine, should still be illegal. Care to buy a bridge in Brooklyn?
Then there is the case of Colombia. Representing the legalization fight was "MamaCoca" earth mother Maria Mercedes, who had been trained at the Sorbonne in Paris. Her website is in English, Spanish, and French, where she is known for her saying, "MamaCoca es la palabra." ("Mother coca is the word"). Mercedes says that the United States grows marijuana; Colombia grows coca and coffee; and, Holland produces "Ecstasy"; and that is a fine division of labor. She said that there is a time-bomb in Colombia; that when former President Pastrana's peace plan turned into Plan Colombia, which brought about "La Violencia." While totally excusing the actions of the narco-terrorist FARC, "MamaCoca" accused President Hector Uribe, Pastrana's successor, of using indiscriminate terror against peasants.
In addition, Soros's legalizers came up with a new tactic: a law enforcement front group, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP), led by one Edward "Eddie" George, a former Detective Chief Superintendent and head of the Scotland Yard Drug Squad. Long committed to legalization, George said in an interview that he only busted the big distributors, except for crimes committed to support a habit. Apparently, this means that a wealthy man with a heroin addiction is acceptable in his book. George peddles the usual pablum that that drugs should be treated like tobacco and alcohol, and nodded agreement with the "victimless crime" line of fellow Scotland Yard'er Lindesmith, after whom Soros's legalization project was named. He wants to see heroin injection centers like Vancouver's internationally.
Case Study II: Menticide Against Children. A major session entitled, "Congress, Club Drugs and the Business of Dancing" sought to protect the producers and club owners who put on Raves from prosecution, now pending in Federal legislation introduced by Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del.). Raves are the all-night "dances" where there is high violence, and high consumption of Ecstasy, and increasingly of Methamphetamines, which are often sold by the Rave producers and club owners.
Biden Is Legalizers' Target
Hip-Hop historian and disk-jockey Davey D., who moderated the panel, claimed that if law enforcement could crack-down on club owners for 13- and 14-year-olds passing out from Ecstasy, then police should arrest college presidents for "frat house" alcohol excesses in colleges. When Rave disk-jockey "D:FUSE" called for more self-policing and no drugs at Raves, the other panelists attacked him.
DPA's Bill Piper zeroed in on Senator Biden. When Biden found that laws against crackhouses could not be applied to nightclubs, he introduced the Rave Act which passed committee in ten days, and seemed assured of success. The DPA launched a mobilization with the American Civil Liberties Union to kill the bill. He claimed that "tens of thousands" of protest letters caused two of the co-sponsors to drop out, and the bill was dead. The DPA is now mobilizing to fight Biden's Illicit Drug Non-Proliferation Act which has been attached as an amendment to a bill on child kidnapping.
The worst were "medical" experts. Chris Mann is the creator of MedEvent—a nationwide organization made up of volunteer physicians, paramedics, nurses, and EMTs who provide support for special events such as Raves. He argued that by making Ecstasy illegal, you are denying Rave participants proper medical attention, including chilling-out rooms. Dr. Julie Holland, the "wicked witch" of Bellevue Hospital, took the cake, claiming that human beings have "a biological need to alter their states of mind." She co-authored Ecstasy: The Complete Guide to MDMA.
Case Study III: Psychedelics. This panel was a Baby Boomer travelogue of bad LSD trips. But it had a "happy ending": the three panelists are now successful establishment figures, with studies approved by the Food and Drug Administration, and regular columns in favorite Baby Boomer journals.
Richard Doblin, Founder and President of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), still takes psychedelics, but he is about to get FDA approval for a study of the effect of MDMA on rape victims. He also applied to the FDA for use of LSD on terminal cancer patients. Doblin's qualifications: he dropped so many psychedelics and had so many "bad trips" in the 1960-70s out of fear of being drafted, that it took him a decade before he could enter graduate school.
Then, self-described "Old Acid Head" John Horgan, author of Rational Mysticism: Dispatches from the Border Between Science and Spirituality, and a fanatical hater of LaRouche, blathered about his bad trips, regretting that he confessed to continued tripping, in Slate magazine. During a trip in 1982 on a powerful psychedelic, he became convinced that God was a Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD), and that this was demonstrated by behavior of human beings.
There was little wonder why the conference participants insisted to all who asked, that their efforts should be "kept separate" from George Soros' financial takeover of the dumb Democrats.
Oh yeah,
One more point:
It may look bad (to some) that the Venezeulan government is arresting and deporting two "researchers" (by armed guard); but I can fully understand their feeling: they've had it with these mouthy brats masquerading as "freedom-lovers," (that includes, it seems, over half of the jerks/paid-stooges leaving their stupid, asinine comments at this site); and Chavez and co. don't feel they have to tolerate them anymore. I guess they figure: "if it looks bad to know-nothings in North America, so what? Our revolution is no longer dependent upon American public opinion."
About time...
send the hacks packing....
Maybe the Peace Corps people and the Mormons are doing some good work. Maybe they're receiving money/influence from the CIA, (most-likely).
At any rate, if the Mormons and American "volunteers" take a six-month break, (or longer) Venezuela and Bolivia have quite enough resources to look after their own people, (if they can just get it out of the greedy hands of the oligarchs, parasites, and their paid servants).
thanks Jim,
'roo
Egads, what is up w/that Lyndon LaRouche crapola above? Take a look at the photos of, "Operation Mop-Up, " when the LaRouceite thugs beat up communists.
Lyndon LaRouche: Fascist Demagogue ,
http://www.publiceye.org/larouche/
More on LaRouche:
* The LaRouchite Secret Elite Synthesis
* Lyndon LaRouche: Fascism Wrapped in an American Flag
* Roots of LaRouche's Antisemitic Theories
* A '60'S Socialist Takes a Hard Right
* NCLC: America's Largest Political Intelligence Army
* Operation Mop-Up
http://www.publiceye.org/larouche/synthesis.html
From Right-Wing Populism in America: Too Close for Comfort
by Chip Berlet and Matthew N. Lyons
New York: Guilford Press, 2000.
The LaRouchite Secret Elite Synthesis
©2000, The Guilford Press, all rights reserved.
This material may not be circulated on the internet or posted on other websites.
The authors thank Guilford Press for permission to post this excerpt online.
Though often dismissed as a bizarre political cult, the LaRouche organization and its various front groups are a fascist movement whose pronouncements echo elements of Nazi ideology.[1] Beginning in the 1970s, the LaRouchites combined populist antielitism with attacks on leftists, environmentalists, feminists, gay men and lesbians, and organized labor. They advocated a dictatorship in which a "humanist" elite would rule on behalf of industrial capitalists. They developed an idiosyncratic, coded variation on the Illuminati Freemason and Jewish banker conspiracy theories. Their views, though exotic, were internally consistent and rooted in right-wing populist traditions.
A former Trotskyist, Lyndon H. LaRouche , Jr., founded the National Caucus of Labor Committees (NCLC) in 1968 as an offshoot of the radical student movement. But in the early 1970s, LaRouche engineered a political about-face, using cult pressure tactics to consolidate his grip over the NCLC and initiating a campaign of physical attacks on Communists and Black nationalists, which cut his followers off from the Left. The result was a fascist organization with some unique strengths: a dedicated, full-time cadre of several hundred members, a high proportion of intellectuals with advanced training, familiarity with leftist theory and organizing, and inside information about radical organizations and leaders.
During the 1970s and 1980s, the LaRouchites built an international network for spying and propaganda, with links to the upper levels of government, business, and organized crime. The LaRouchites traded information with intelligence agencies in the United States,South Africa, East Germany, and elsewhere. Their dirty tricks record included harassment campaigns against the United Auto Workers and the United Steelworkers of America in the 1970s. In 1980, they branded George Bush an agent of the Trilateral Commission to help Ronald Reagan win the Republican presidential nomination, and in 1984, they helped Jesse Helms retain his U.S. Senate seat by gay-baiting his opponent. During the 1980s, the LaRouchites raised an estimated $200 million through legal and illegal fund-raising and fielded thousands of candidates for political office in every region of the country. Seeking the George Wallace vote, the LaRouche candidates usually ran in Democratic primaries.[2]
The LaRouchites generally operated under front groups such as Food for Peace and the Schiller Institute, and put out such publications as New Solidarity (later The New Federalist) and Executive Intelligence Review.
In 1976 LaRouche’s original electoral arm, the U.S. Labor Party (USLP), published a conspiracist attack on President Jimmy Carter, claiming he was a tool of secret international elites. The Liberty Lobby criticized the report for failing to mention the role of Jewish bankers, and soon LaRouche publications picked up the theme.[3] The Liberty Lobby and the LaRouche group soon began to cooperate closely on projects. When some groups on the right criticized the Liberty Lobby for working with ostensible leftists, meaning the USLP, the Liberty Lobby defended the relationship in 1981: "No group has done so much to confuse, disorient, and disunify the Left as they have. . . . The USLP should be encouraged, as should all similar breakaway groups from the Left, for this is the only way that the Left can be weakened and broken."[4]
In the 1970s, the LaRouchites’ anti-Jewish propaganda was relatively explicit, as in LaRouche’s 1978 article "New Pamphlet to Document Cult Origins of Zionism," which declared that "The B’Nai B’rith today resurrects the tradition of the Jews who demanded the crucifixion of Jesus Christ , the Jews who pleaded with Nero to launch the ´holocaust´ against the Christians."[5] Gradually the LaRouchites developed increasingly sophisticated ways to invoke antisemitic themes while still maintaining deniability.
The LaRouchites borrowed conspiracist elements from various sources to produce their own Manichean picture of world history. For thousands of years, they argued, the good "humanists" had been locked in a power struggle with a vast conspiracy of evil "oligarchs." In ancient times, the oligarchic conspiracy was centered in Babylon; later it shifted to Venice; in modern times it was centered in Britain’s royal House of Windsor. This narrative evoked standard elements of antisemitic doctrine: that Jews had dominated ancient Babylon and that Jewish banking families controlled the British government. Sometimes the LaRouchites highlighted prominent Jews as members of the conspiracy, such as "[Henry] Kissinger ’s friends, the Rothschild family, and other representatives of Britain’s financial power." At other times, they portrayed Jews as unwitting tools of the oligarchs, as for example, "Zionism is that state of collective psychosis through which London manipulates most of international Jewry."[6]
The LaRouchite analysis of British oligarchic control resembles a number of earlier right-wing populist works, such as E. C. Knuth’s 1944 tract The Empire of "The City": alias International Finance, alias the British Empire, alias "ONE WORLD" superstate. Knuth claimed that the Rothschilds and Sassoons controlled British financial interests, and he cited the International Monetary Fund as proof of their plot for global dominance.
Unlike neonazi groups such as the White Aryan Resistance or the National Alliance, the NCLC has always denied that it is antisemitic and has always included Jewish members (such as LaRouche’s longtime security aides Jeffrey Steinberg and Paul Goldstein). The LaRouchites insisted they were not targeting Jews as a whole, but only the "bad" Jews such as Henry Kissinger,Roy Cohn, the Rothschild banking family, and the Anti-Defamation League.
The LaRouchites seem to have shifted from biological to cultural racism, at least in their public pronouncements. In the 1970s, LaRouche and his followers described the British oligarchs as a separate "species" and often referred to people of color as bestial or subhuman. But in 1995, New Federalist editor Nancy Spannaus declared, "We don’t believe blood or race has anything to do with determining history. Never fear! It’s ideas."[7] LaRouchite ideology has continued to glorify western Christianity and European civilization—especially the classical German culture of Beethoven , Schiller, and Leibniz—over the "barbarism" of non-Europeans. For example, LaRouchites asserted that by bringing Christianity to the Americas, " Columbus ’ discovery made it possible to liberate the native populations" from "the practices of human sacrifice, cannibalism, and slavery of the Aztec Empire." The LaRouchites vilified jazz and rock music while praising African American spirituals—so long as they conformed to the rules of European classical music.[8]
U.S. right-wing traditions such as business nationalism echoed loudly in the LaRouchites’ attacks on Britain, the "liberal Eastern Establishment," homosexuality, globalism, free trade, and international bankers. Producerism, with its problematic distinction between productive industrial capital and parasitic finance capital, was central to LaRouchite economics, as it enabled LaRouche to be procapitalist and "anti-imperialist" at the same time: "Imperialism was not the result of capitalist development; it was the result of the conquest of power over capitalist nations by a usury-oriented rentier–financier interest older than feudalism."[9]
Like traditional fascists of the 1920s and 1930s, but unlike many neonazis and other U.S. rightists today, LaRouchites championed a strong, centralized nation-state as vital to economic and social progress. They declared they were continuing the old Federalist–Whig program of economic protectionism, national control of banking, and government-sponsored infrastructure development to stimulate industrial growth. They attacked both states’ rights and laissez-faire conservatism as part of a British plot to undermine the nation-state.[10]
Also, unlike some neonazis, the LaRouchites vilified the environmental movement and nature romanticism while praising high-technology projects such as nuclear power. But here, too, the LaRouchites were partly repackaging earlier conspiracy theories. Their attacks on the Club of Rome, an ecology and population control group, echoed a 1974 article in the rightist American Mercury entitled "The Curious Club of Rome," which asked whether the group was "merely a bunch of boring pedants and doom- sayers, or is it a sinister cabal aiming for world control?"[11]
In 1989, LaRouche was sentenced to fifteen years in prison for mail fraud conspiracy, based on illegal and manipulative fund-raising practices, as well as tax evasion. His organization continued to operate while he was in prison, and he was released in early 1994.
LaRouche continued his leadership role in various organizations such as the National Caucus of Labor Committees and the Schiller Institute while in prison, and after his release he resumed his peripatetic speaking circuit, quickly building contacts with a number of groups around the world. His call for new global economic policies in opposition to the International Monetary Fund found favor not only in Europe, but in Africa, Central and South America, and Asia. He spoke at a number of conferences organized in countries previously under Soviet influence or control.
During the 1990s, the LaRouchites once again adopted a more "progressive" guise. They opposed the Gulf War against Iraq and worked to build links with liberal and leftist antiwar groups. They made particular efforts to recruit African Americans. They opposed the death penalty, anti-immigrant racism, and law enforcement agencies’ harassment of Black elected officials. They defended social programs against Gingrich–Republican budget cuts. They praised the Israeli–Palestinian negotiations and the Israeli Labor Party while denouncing the rightist Likud Party and the Islamic fundamentalists in Hamas. Starting in 1990, the LaRouchites and Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam cultivated friendly ties, sharing articles and praising each other’s work.[12]
The LaRouchites set an example of how to package fascist ideology as maverick conservatism, progressive antielitism, or both. In 1986, when LaRouche followers shocked the Illinois Democratic Party by winning the party primaries for lieutenant governor and secretary of state, other far rightists praised their efforts. Some, such as David Duke, looked for lessons in their electoral strategy.[13]
[1] See Dennis King, Lyndon LaRouche.
[2] Ibid., p. 89.
[3] Ibid., pp. 39–40.
[4] Spotlight, March 2, 1981, p. 20.
[5] Lyndon H. LaRouche, "New Pamphlet to Document Cult Origins of Zionism," New Solidarity, December 8, 1978, quoted in Dennis King, Nazis Without Swastikas, p. 9.
[6] "Zionism Is Not Judaism," editorial, The Campaigner, December 1978.
[7]New Federalist, June 19, 1995, p. 10.
[8]William F. Wertz, Jr., " Fidelo Magazine Refutes Slanderers of Columbus ,"New Federalist, June 29, 1992, p. 11; Dennis Speed, "African-American Spiritual and the Resurrection of Classical Art," New Federalist, October 9, 1995, pp. 6–7.
[9] "Imperialism . . . " quoted in LaRouche, Power of Reason, p. 191. "Kissinger ’s friends . . . " quote in Christopher White, "George Bush’s Countdown to Middle East War."
[10]In the early 1980s, LaRouche described himself as "an American Whig by family ancestry stretching back into the early 19th century, born a New Hampshire Whig, and a Whig Democrat by profession today," Lyndon LaRouche, "Is Republican George Bush a ´Manchurian Candidate´?" issued by Citizens for LaRouche, Manchester, New Hampshire, January 12, 1980; as cited in Tarpley and Chaitkin, George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography , online at http://www.tarpley.net/bush16.htm. LaRouche briefly explains how one can be a modern Federalist Whig Democrat in Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr., A Program for America (Washington, DC: The LaRouche Democratic Campaign, 1995), pp. 315–332.
On rapid growth economic and industrialization policies, see LaRouche, The Case for Walter Lippman: A Presidential Strategy (New York: Campaigner Publications/University Editions, 1977), especially pp. 164–167; LaRouche, There Are No Limits to Growth (New York: New Benjamin Franklin House, 1983); and LaRouche, Program for America, especially ch. 4, " LaRouche’s Proposals for Economic Reform," pp. 37–120, including subtitles "Great Projects versus Kissinger Genocide," and "The United States Under President Reagan’s ´Hoover´ Recovery"; and ch. 8, "The Pathway to a U.S. Economic Recovery," pp. 263–313, including the subtitle "Reopen America’s Steel Plants Now!"
On a LaRouchite critique of the 1995 Republican Contract with America proposed by Newt Gingrich, see "How the Conservative Revolution Crowd Plans to Destroy America," pamplet, Leesburg, Virginia, New Federalist, March 1995.
On British conspiracy against the United States, see LaRouche, "Foreword," in The Trilateral Conspiracy Against the U.S. Constitution: Fact or Fiction? ([EIR Special Report] Washington, DC: Executive Intelligence Review, 1985), in which the Trilateral Commission is identified as "merely one of numerous ventures, launched by the same Anglo-American Liberal Establishment which created the New York Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)," p. 2; and Christopher White, "The Socialist One-World Conspiracy," The Campaigner, April 1981, pp. 2–3.
A large amount of LaRouchite conspiracist anti-British material was found at the American Almanac website, http://members.com/~american_almanac/britspt.htm April 1, 2000) including an entire section titled "´Winds of Change´—The Sun Never Sets on the New British Empire—Financial Control and the Destabilization of Governments." Another website containing material illustrating several of our points was "LaRouche’s Major Writings," at http://www.larouchepub.com/major_writings.html April 1, 2000).
[11]American Mercury, Fall 1974, p. 16.
[12] See the following articles from the New Federalist: Marianna Wertz, "American Opposition Is Growing to the Use of the Death Penalty," June 29, 1992, p. 12; Edward Spannaus, "Supreme Court Upholds Limits on Death Row Prisoners’ Habeas Petitions," July 15, 1996, p. 12; Stuart Lewis, "Anti-Immigration Fanatics Assess Efficacy of Efforts Against Mexico," June 12, 1995, p. 3; Debra Hanania Freeman, "National Scandal," June 12, 1995, p. 4; Marianna Wertz, "Clinton and Democrats Fight GOP’s Budget Gouging," May 29, 1995, p. 12; Anton Chaitkin, "President Rejects ´Crush the Poor´ Welfare Plan," June 19, 1995, p. 2; Richard Freeman, "Privatization," June 19, 1995, p. 11; Dean Andromidas, " Likud, GOP Out to Wreck Mideast Peace," May 29, 1995, p. 3. See also Caryle Murphy, " LaRouche Sentenced to 15 Years in Prison," The Washington Post, January 28, 1989; Associated Press, "Supreme Court Upholds LaRouche Convictions," The Washington Post, June 12, 1990; Peter Pae and Leef Smith, " LaRouche, Paroled After 5 Years in Prison, Returns to Loudoun," The Washington Post, January 27, 1994. On LaRouche’s postjail activities, see the following articles from the New Federalist: " LaRouche: Accepting Gingrich Nazi Policies Means Doom for the U.S.," February 26, 1996, p. 1; Rachel Douglas, " LaRouche Urges U.S.–Russian Cooperation Against British," May 6, 1996, p. 1; Nancy Spannaus, "The World Depression Has Arrived," February 24, 1997, p. 1. On LaRouchite continued Anglophobic conspiracism, see the following articles from the New Federalist: Jeffrey Steinberg, "Scandals Shake British Throne," October 31, 1994; Jeffrey Steinberg, "Prince Phillip’s Eco-Terrorists Make Death Threats vs. Clinton , Chirac," September 4, 1995, p. 1.
[13]Dennis King,Lyndon LaRouche, pp. 103, 119.
Case in point about the "paid hacks" visiting this site on a regular basis: see above.
Lyndon LaRouche, (Godfather of the above writer) is a long-time CIA asset and disinfo conduit: i.e. providing SOME valuable "inside" information mixed up with a whole lot of garbage that goes nowhere.
Yay for Roosevelt!?!
The point of the above obscenely-long posting (which has absolutely nothing to do with the post that Jim made about Venezuela) is designed purely to get in the way of the rest of us having a useful dialogue, (i.e. tire out, turn off the average reader who tends to give the radical-sounding post a listen).
That the person could be just so thoughtless and inconsiderate of the subject-matter being discussed is just too obvious for it to be anything but intentional.
There are wankers like this all over the net, paid to interfere with democratic dialogue, wherever it threatens to crop up, from Indymedia to the Democracy centre.
I think it seriously detracts from your site Jim, that you allow these agents to do their thing, (though what you might have to do to control it might not be worth the hassle, which is what they're counting on).
But your posts are still worth reading.
so thank again.
peace,
roo
As far as I know and read, no one in the Bolivian Gov. told the Mormons and Peace Corps to exit Bolivia.
The US government scared them away in the same fashion that it is scaring the American people into submission with their so called "war on terror".
So far the only attacks in the US have been crazies going postal in churches, colleges, malls etc. In contrast, the "democratic war" in Iraq, a war based on lies and accusations, has caused the deaths of tens of thousands, the displacement of millions of innocents and the fueling of anti-Americanism.
The war on finance can also be added to the wars now facing Joe Public. He and his fellow citizens are about to be harnessed with almost a trillion dollars worth of bad debt. Giddy up Joe! Get the apple -the “American Dream” apple. No, you may not get “socialized healthcare” but please enjoy socialized capitalism.
Franco
Roo:
I agree with you mostly. Expect for Larouche being a CIA agent. An agent who got 15 years in jail? and still works for them?
That´s like saying that Mandela was actually an agent to the Reunited National Party.
Jim,
Your article shows that you do have an unbiased position in your work.
I saw this in a search for genocidal policies. I thought it´s worth sharing.
Cheers!
We should say sorry, too.
Australia's apology does not absolve Britain of its role in the degradation of the Aboriginal race...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/feb/14/australia
Wow. The lunatics really crawl out of the woodwork on Sundays.
Nice post, DC. I had lost hope in your ability to be impartial but I guess I'll start giving you the benefit of the doubt again. I would recommend that the DC's readers and in particular those Morales supporters that post here read HRW's report on Venezuela. Don't confuse HRW with Human Rights Foundation, which is a right leaning non-profit with an agenda. This group supposedly has an office or representative in Santa Cruz. Their name is totally deceiving and I assume gave it the moniker with the hopes that they'd be confused with HRW and have some instant credibility.
To the morons that post entire articles and plagiarized manifestos here: Such practices don't increase your dick size. This is a blog, i.e. it's meant for people to draft their own comments and opinions or at least original work, not cut and paste from other sources. If you want us to read an article, just post the link.
Another ultra-leftist trashing HRW. Likely would have been an apologist for Stalinism back in the day.
http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_28263.shtml
Featured
Human Rights Watch Clowns Around
By *Arthur Shaw Exclusive
Sep 21, 2008, 13:38
Human Rights Watch, a NYC-based international "non-governmental" organization that conducts research and advocacy on bourgeois democracy, produces propaganda that glorifies or apologizes for atrocities and crimes against humanity committed by US imperialism and Human Rights Watch defames foes of US imperialism often with false reports of violations of democratic principles.
**The key instance of Human Rights Watch (HWR) producing propaganda that glorifies or apologizes for US imperialism is HRW's complete indifference to the US imperialist policy and massive program of genocide against the Iraqi people that has already occasioned the deaths of over 1,000,000 Iraqi citizens. When US imperialists are not the monsters committing genocide, HRW treats genocide as a violation of human rights, for HRW has published extensively on the Rwandan Genocide.
Even when US genocidal policy and program grew transparent or, more correctly, conspicuous during the "surge" of genocide, HRW remained largely silent, participating in the cover-up of this systematic Hitlerian-type holocaust in Iraq. For more information on the HRW-neglected holocaust in Iraq, see "Bloodbath and the US Presidential Campaign," published here at Axis of Logic. HRW deceitfully turns the US imperialist genocide in Iraq into something that is merely episodic and sporadic, contrary, HRW falsely claims, to US policy.
The chief instance, of late, of the HWR producing propaganda that defames foes of US imperialism is the big pile of trash and garbage, stuffed with lies and other filth, titled "A Decade Under Chávez: Political Intolerance and Lost Opportunities for Advancing Human Rights in Venezuela."
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HRW divides its bag of garbage which it calls its report on human rights in Venezuela into six sections -- political discrimination, the courts, media, organized labor, civil society, and the future of Venezuelan democracy.
In the first section on political discrimination, HRW makes three main charges [all lies].
In this section, HRW says the Venezuelan state:
1.
Fired and blacklisted political opponents from some state agencies and from the national oil company;
2.
Denied some citizens access to social programs based on their political opinions; and
3.
Discriminated against media outlets, labor unions, and civil society in response to legitimate criticism or political activity.
Logically, #2 obviously deals with with citizens who are not government employees, and #3, deals with non-governmental organizations. Both are in essence, political and ideological derivatives or, at least, the parallels of #1, which deals with government employees or government job applicants.
So, we can examine (1) and not tediously rehash the same kind of arguments, again and again, for (2) and (3).
POLITICAL DISCRIMINATION
In (1) above, HRW says the Venezuelan state "fired and blacklisted political opponents from some state agencies and from the national oil company."
"Some State Agencies"
Note the term "some state agencies. HRW gives no idea of the number of state agencies that allegedly fired and blacklisted political opponents. But even the lying HRW admits only "some" do it, not "all" state agencies; so, the allegedly fired or blacklisted opponents still have a shot at a job at another state agency.
Why didn't HRW holler and make a lot of noise when HRW heard that George W. Bush and US Attorney General Alberto Gonzales were firing US attorneys either because Bush/Gonzales judged "some US attorneys" weren't reactionary enough or, worse, they were mildly liberal.
HRW kept its big mouth shut. This shows HRW is two-faced, bias, and full of lies; therefore, we shouldn't believe HRW about anything, including Venezuela.
"National Oil Company"
HRW says the Venezuelan state "fired and blacklisted ... from the national oil company."
In late 2002, the Venezuelan bourgeoisie and US imperialists locked-out Venezuelan workers from almost all economic production and distribution, including the national oil company. Both pro-government and pro-opposition workers at the national oil company were locked-out.
In 2002, the national oil company was government-owned, but the company was infested and controlled by the reactionary sector of the Venezuelan bourgeoisie and a swarm of US imperialists.
After the bourgeois lockout began, the state promptly took over the national oil company, ordered the perfidious sector of the bourgeoisie and imperialists off the premises, and called ALL of the workers ...both pro-government and pro-opposition ... back to their jobs. Most of the pro-government workers, a minority in 2002 of the company's labor force, returned to their jobs. And a significant minority of pro-opposition workers also returned to their jobs, both showing the "finger" to the reactionary Venezuelan bourgeoisie and US imperialists.
The state then fired ALL of the workers who refused to worked, the workers showing servility to the reactionary bourgeoisie and imperialists whether the workers were pro-government or pro-opposition.
About 18,000 renegade workers were notified not to come back or "blacklisted," after they repeatedly ignored calls from the state to return to their jobs.
Obviously, this is not political discrimination in any way or to any degree because the firing and blacklisting of renegades applied to all workers who refused to work, political supporters as well as opponents of the state.
[Editor's Note: At this juncture, we remember Ronald Reagan when he fired 11,345 Air Traffic Controllers under the pretext of national security after they went on strike on August 3, 1981. Reagan barred them from returning to government service for 3 years. - LMB]
Once Again, HRW's Defamation Tale About Political Discrimination In Venezuela
Let's revisit globally HRW's above-quoted accusation, namely, the Venezuelan state "fired and blacklisted political opponents from some state agencies and from the national oil company. "
So, HRW hints if any agency of the Venezuelan state fires an employee who happens to be a political opponent, HRW assumes the reason for the firing is the employee's political opposition to the state, not the employee's corruption or incompetence or insubordination or larceny or sexual degeneracy on the job or absenteeism or drunkenness on the job or etc. or etc.
HRW claims it conducted "extensive interviews" for the piece of trash it calls its "report."
HRW's extensive interviews must have gone something like this:
HRW: When you worked for the state, were you a corrupt employee?
FORMER STATE EMPLOYEE: No madam, not at all. I swear.
HRW: Were you drunk or a sexually degenerate on the job?
FORMER EMPLOYEE: Why you ask me about that?
HRW: Again, were you drunk or a sexually degenerate on the job?
FORMER EMPLOYEE: What you mean by " a sexual degenerate on the job?"
HRW: Never mind. Based on your answers to my inquiries, I, on behalf of the HRW, find you're a victim of political discrimination.
POLITICAL DISCRIMINATION IN USA DOESN'T GET A HRW REPORT
Since HRW originates from the USA, the HRW should be at least concerned to some degree about allegations of political discrimination in the USA, including Alaska.
In Alaska, the "gop" VP nominee Sarah Palin fired the state director of public safety reportedly because the director refused the fire Palin's former brother-in-law. HRW will likely argue that this case doesn't amount to political discrimination because the former brother-in-law and fired public safety director are both "gops" like Palin.
When Palin was mayor of the City of Wassila, Alaska before she was governor, Palin fired the chief of police because he insisted on closing the saloons at 1 AM instead 4 AM after several serious DWI accidents early in the morning. The local bar owners were big financial contributors of Palin. The fired chief of police was a political opponent of Palin; he supported her unsuccessful mayoral opponent.
The slimy HRW didn't say a thing about this instance of political discrimination by Palin because HRW was too busy down in Venezuela digging up lies and defamations about the exercise of power by the Venezuela workers of a state that increasingly belongs to them.
These instances in Alaska show the two-faced nature of HRW.
Against the US bourgeoisie or a US bourgeois wannabe, HRW is nothing if not apologetic or, more often, a party to a cover-up of wrong-doing.
But against a foe of US imperialism, like the revolutionary workers of Venezuela, HRW is a gushing fountain of defamation.
VIVANCO, NOTORIOUS HRW TRAMP THROWN OUT OF VENEZUELA
"Vivanco has murky records and collaborated with the Augusto Pinochet dictatorship in Chile. Our country cannot accept anyone that comes to attack the people and the institutions. In Venezuela we are building a democracy that has the people’s power as the main protagonist, and we respect the Constitution approved by the majority.”
- Carlos Escarra, Parliamentarian
Venezuela National Assembly
José Miguel Vivanco, Americas director for HRW, was expelled from Venezuela Thursday night, Sept. 18, after presenting to the vicious bourgeois media in Caracas an offensive report packed with lies and defamations about what is in fact a growing Venezuela democracy and the increasingly proletarian content of Venezuelan democracy.
Vivanco, a truculent imperialist tramp, refused to accompany the Venezuelan law enforcement officers who delivered the persona non grata order of expulsion to him at his hotel and Vivanco, a notorious foreign national working for the Bush regime, wrestled on the floor of his hotel with Venezuelan law enforcement officers who told him in a civil tone that he had to catch the next plane out of the democracy he defamed and hoped to defame even more.
Venezuelan Foreign Affairs Minister Nicolás Maduro explained that the Bolivarian state in Venezuela declared Vivanco persona non grata because his lies and defamations about the state were unusually huge. Since persona non grata is a term mostly used in diplomacy, the expulsion implies the Venezuelan state considers Vivanco a US government agent, notwithstanding the ridiculous pretensions of HRW as a "non-governmental" organization.
''This is the first time this has ever happened to Human Rights Watch in this hemisphere,'' Vivanco said after his expulsion.
Well, it's about time it happened.
HRW has been producing glorifying and apologetic propaganda about US imperialism and defamatory stories about the foes of the US imperialism for 20 years. So, an expulsion is overdue.
By contrast, the bourgeois US regime doesn't even issue entry visas into the USA to most prominent critics of the US regime from Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, and Bolivia. A couple of years ago the bourgeois regime in Washington threw a delegation of Cuban petroleum executives out of a US privately-owned hotel in Mexico City, Mexico and ... what's more ... the US regime kept $7000 the Cubans had paid the hotel in advance.
Naturally, the imperialist running dogs at HRW said not a word of criticism although the Cubans who were kicked out of the US-owned hotel in Mexico City solely because they were Cuban. Apparently, the HRW didn't believe the incident was a human rights violation or the HRW believes the bourgeois regime in Washington has the right to violate human rights.
At least, Venezuela workers let this imperialist tramp, José Miguel Vivanco, in before they threw him out.
The bourgeois US regime and US capitalist press exploded with rage upon hearing that the state of the Venezuelan workers threw Vivanco, the imperialist tramp, out. The Miami Herald, on Sept. 19, wrote "In a 230-page report, Human Rights Watch concluded, among other things, that the government of President Hugo Chávez had engaged in systematic political discrimination and shown 'open disregard' for the principle of separation of powers."
We have already examined the poor quality of report's lies and defamations about political discrimination. Perhaps, in the future, we should examine the report's lies and defamation on the separation of powers in Venezuela.
CONCLUSION
Two key transformations are underway within the Venezuelan state -- a move toward a more democratic government and a move toward a proletarian government. HRW falsely denies the reality of the first process, a matter of form, and fights the second process, a matter of content.
At the moment the middle and senior people in the Venezuelan state come from everywhere politically and ideologically. There are elements of the patriotic bourgeoisie at the top, working beside elements of proletarian revolutionaries. In the middle of the state hierarchy, we find the huge suffocating presence of a lazy and incompetent middle class, a class that is the long, greasy and hairy tail firmly attached to stinking rear of the bourgeoisie and often very hostile to the revolutionary policies of the increasingly proletarian state that employs slimy middle class parasites.
It is a error to attribute the laziness and incompetence of the middle class to the increasingly proletarian content of the Venezuelan state, for the middle class was present in the previous bourgeois regimes prior to the 1998 revolution and the middle class was just as lazy and incompetent in those bourgeois regimes.
The form of the state -- that is, the move toward more democracy -- rests chiefly on the rules for the exercise of power set forth in the Constitution of the state and whether the state in fact complies with the constitutional rules in the exercise of its power. The content of the state -- the move toward a proletarian state from a bourgeois state -- rests on the social class -- the lumpen, the proletariat, the middle class, or the bourgeoisie -- that chiefly occupies the policy-making and regulatory apparatus of state that exercises the power. Generally, the policy-making and regulatory apparatus of the state is far above and way outside of the civil service employment system that often ignores the political, ideological, and organizational qualities of the job applicants.
The transition from a bourgeois to a proletarian state is Venezuela consists of a flow of proletarian revolutionaries and other workers ... who at this point, have limited executive experience ... into policy-making and regulatory apparatus and the flow of workers into positions in a part of the regulatory apparatus once exclusively monopolized by the lazy and incompetent middle class which commonly used its position in the apparatus to practice corruption.
HRW, one of many mouthpieces or microphones of US imperialism, calls this transition in the content of the Venezuelan state from bourgeois to proletarian ... which happens to be too gradual due to the shortage of qualified revolutionaries ... "political discrimination."
**Related: Read Gabriele Zamparini's damning report on HRW and their "Senior Military Analyst", Marc Garlasco.
"Watching Human Rights Watch"
The following excerpt from Garlasco's biography provides a taste of Zamparini's report:
“Before coming to HRW, Marc spent seven years in the Pentagon as a senior intelligence analyst covering Iraq. His last position there was chief of high-value targeting during the Iraq War in 2003. Marc was on the Operation Desert Fox (Iraq) Battle Damage Assessment team in 1998, led a Pentagon Battle Damage Assessment team to Kosovo in 1999, and recommended thousands of aimpoints on hundreds of targets during operations in Iraq and Serbia. He also participated in over 50 interrogations as a subject matter expert”.
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Peace on earth.
http://www.laprensa.com.bo/noticias/21-09-08/21_09_08_opin2.php
About time HRW was removed. Its a front for US govt interests, and has links to the NED.
The only HR organisation of any real authority is the Red Cross..
Seriously, could you idiots stop posting entire 10 page articles.
Has anyone noticed Grindios absence amongst the turmoil? He's usually here posting how the right sacrifices babies and drinks their blood. hmmmm
Could it be he finally got out of the california burbs took the first flight to Bolivia and finally put his money where his mouth is.
'First, Human Rights Watch is not a right-wing organization with an agenda'
not so. Vivanco has long been targeting Chavez.
EG:
's court proceedings begin this month against four Venezuelans from an election campaign group that accepted donations from a foreign government ? something that is indisputably a federal crime under both U.S. and Venezuelan law ? it?s no surprise that members of the Bush administration in Washington cry that the sky is falling.
After all, it?s their money (well, on second thought, it is U.S. taxpayers? money) that is at the root of the alleged criminal enterprise. And the upcoming trial of accused Venezuelan electoral delinquents, held in the public light of day, will shine yet more sunlight upon Washington?s secret recipes for meddling in the elections of other nations.
On Friday, U.S. State Department spokesman Tom Casey and Jose Vivanco of Human Rights Watch ? thirteen blocks from the White House and on the same day - chirped in harmony to spin this story as a case of ?persecution? against ?legitimate electoral activities.? '
etc
http://www.globalexchange.org/countries/americas/venezuela/3285.html
in 2004, Greg Wilpert had this to say:
'Has Human Rights Watch Joined Venezuela’s Opposition?
by Gregory Wilpert
It looks like the cat is out of the bag: Human Rights Watch has formally joined Venezuela’s opposition. Well, not quite; it is not a formally consummated deal yet, since their latest report does appeal to President Chavez by saying, “the criticisms offered [in the report] [should] not be mischaracterized as a partisan attack.”
Then why has just about everyone who supports the Chavez government taken the latest Human Rights Watch (HRW) report on Venezuela, about the country’s “Judicial Independence under Siege,” as precisely the opposite of what HRW says it is, as a “partisan attack”? Is it because they do not want to deal with the real issues, as HRW’s America’s Director José Miguel Vivanco suggests, or is it because the report actually is a partisan attack - one that is being launched just in time to turn national and international public opinion against the Chavez government as it faces an unprecedented recall referendum a mere two months from now?
This report is just the most recent and most revealing partisan attack against the Chavez government. It begins by basically equating the April 2002 coup attempt with the new Supreme Court law when it says, “When Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez Frías faced a coup d’état in April 2002, advocates of democracy in Venezuela and abroad roundly condemned the assault on the country’s constitutional order. Today Venezuela faces another constitutional crisis that could severely impair its already fragile democracy. This time, though, the threat comes from the government itself.” It ends by making demands that are typical of Venezuela’s opposition-demands that the government cannot possibly fulfill, such as suspending the new law, which has already taken effect. Then, since such a demand will not be fulfilled, the report, just as is typical of Venezuela’s opposition, takes the issue to international bodies, such as the World Bank and the OAS.
etc
http://voltairenet.org/article121200.html
There is a lot more info on the internet to show that HRW with regards to Venezuela and latin america as a a whole is very much serving US interests.
Ive long had my suspicions that perhaps Jim is like Vivanco...
Huma Rights Watch amnesia:
Gabrielle Zamparin corresponds with HRW:
HAPPY DAYS - Part I: Human Rights Watch's Amnesia
Part I - Human Rights Watch's Amnesia: An e-mail exchange with Human Rights Watch's John H. Biaggi - Acting Director Human Rights Watch International Film Festival
Dear John Biaggi,
I’m sure you’re very busy with the HRW Film Festival these days, but there is an urgent matter I’d kindly like you to consider.
I’ve just read in the Village Voice an article that reads:
The body count at the Human Rights Watch International Film Festival rivals any in Hollywood's summer shoot-'em-ups: 400,000 killed in Laos; 250,000 slaughtered in Chechnya; 40,000 murdered in Chad; 3,000 Chileans disappeared under Pinochet; 1,000 Lebanese felled by Israeli bombs. Now add Iraq to the equation—some 90,000 violent civilian deaths and counting, according to IraqBodyCount.org—and you have a serious accounting of carnage, both past and present, reflected at this year's 19th annual event. [The Political Is Personal at the Human Rights Watch Fest. Putting a human face on global atrocity. by Anthony Kaufman June 3rd, 2008]
From the article I don’t understand if the figures about Iraq taken from Iraq Body Count has been adopted by HRW or it was just an insert from the Village Voice’s journalist.
As you surely know, the best estimates indicate the real figure is likely in excess of one million dead. I’m sending here below some resources I hope can be useful both to Human Rights Watch Film Festival and to the press.
Thank you and good luck with the festival.
Best wishes,
Gabriele Zamparini
Useful resources:
Iraq: the Human Cost
Updated Iraq Survey Affirms Earlier Mortality Estimates
ORB Update on Iraqi Casualty Data
Answers to Questions About Iraq Mortality Surveys
Counting Iraqi Casualties -- and a Media Controversy
What is the real death toll in Iraq?
Iraqi deaths survey 'was robust'
***
Hi Gabriele,
All the figures in this article are entirely the journalists, not HRW figures. Thanks for pointing this out.
Regards,
-John
***
Hi John,
Thank you for your quick reply. I appreciate it, especially knowing how busy you must be in these days with the HRW film festival.
The Village Voice’s article is indeed misleading. I wrote to them but I didn’t get any reply.
If I can abuse of your time and kindness for just one more question, do you know if HRW has an official position on the death toll in the Iraq war? Or can you please tell me to whom I may ask this question within HRW? I really would appreciate your help a lot.
Thank you very much – and by the way, I’m truly a great admirer of your festival which I think is really the best, more intelligent film festival running today.
Best wishes,
Gabriele
etc
http://www.thecatsdream.com/blog/2008/06/happy-days-part-i-human-rights-watchs.htm
Threat to Democracy in Latin America
By Harold Pinter, John Pilger, Tony Benn
20/09/08 "The Guardian" -- On September 10 President Evo Morales of Bolivia declared the US ambassador persona non grata. On September 11 (the 35th anniversary of the military overthrow of Salvador Allende in Chile) the president of Venezuela asked the US ambassador there to leave the country. President Hugo Chávez believed he was facing the possibility of an imminent coup d'etat in which he said the US administration were involved. President Morales believed that his government was facing serious destabilisation which was also being fomented by the US. A third country, Paraguay, announced 10 days previously that it had detected a conspiracy involving military officers and opposition politicians.
Latin America now faces its most serious crisis since the reintroduction of democracy at the end of the 20th century. The plot against democracy in Venezuela centred on a conspiracy, revealed in telephone conversations between senior military officers broadcast on national television, to assassinate the democratically elected head of state. In Bolivia, the separatist prefects of the five eastern and southern departments have begun a campaign of violence and economic sabotage designed to destabilise the democratic regime.
These events show unequivocally who defends democracy and who threatens it today. We are appalled by the failure of much of the international media to provide accurate and proportionate coverage of these events. All democrats throughout should rally to defend democracy in Latin America.
Signed: Harold Pinter, John Pilger, Tony Benn, Ken Loach, Jean Lambert MEP, Ian Gibson MP, Kelvin Hopkins MP, Billy Hayes, General secretary, CWU, Bill Greenshields
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20820.htm
HRWL: loyally serving the Empire.
THE TRUTH SUFFERS IN HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH REPORT ON VENEZUELA
By Press Release
Sep 21, 2008, 19:53
On September 18, 2008 Human Rights Watch released a report entitled “Venezuela: Rights Suffer Under Chávez.” The report contains biases and inaccuracies, and wrongly purports that human rights guarantees are lacking or not properly enforced in Venezuela. In addition, while criticizing Venezuela’s human rights in the political context, it fails to mention the many significant advancements made by the government on other essential human rights, such as access to education, healthcare, nutritious food, clean water, and housing.
MYTH: “Discrimination on political grounds has been a defining feature of the Chávez presidency.”
FACT: Human Rights Watch deems the 2002 coup against the elected government “the most dramatic setback” for human rights in Venezuela in the last decade, but criticizes President Chavez’s own public condemnations of the unconstitutional overthrow as examples of “political discrimination” against the opposition. On the contrary, President Chávez last year pardoned political opponents who backed a failed 2002 coup against his democratically elected government. “It’s a matter of turning the page,” Chávez said. "We want there to be a strong ideological and political debate -- but in peace.”[i] In this spirit, the government has often welcomed input from the opposition, for example, inviting the leaders of student protests to address the National Assembly.
MYTH: The Chávez administration has an “open disregard for the principle of separation of powers – specifically an independent judiciary.”
FACT: Human Rights Watch wrote in an earlier report that “When President Chávez became president in 1999, he inherited a judiciary that had been plagued for years by influence-peddling, political interference, and, above all, corruption...In terms of public credibility, the system was bankrupt.” Under Chávez though, Human Rights Watch admitted that access to justice in Venezuela was improved by the expansion of the court system.[ii] Also, the World Bank found that “the [judicial] reform effort has made significant progress – the STJ [Supreme Court] is more modern and efficient.”[iii] Testament to the strength of democratic institutions in Venezuela is the ability of the National Electoral Council to uphold decisions unfavorable to the executive, such as the “no” victory in the December 2007 referendum on constitutional reforms.
MYTH: “[Chávez] has significantly shifted the balance of the mass media in the government’s favor… by stacking the deck against critical opposition outlets.”
FACT: As was true at the time of the 2002 coup against Chávez, Venezuela’s media is dominated by opposition voices. The “anti-government” media mentioned by Human Rights Watch still maintains the largest share of the nation’s public airwaves, and their frequently extreme criticisms of the government have included calling for the overthrow of elected leaders (as in 2002). There are no major pro-government newspapers in Venezuela. The new government-funded television and radio outlets, such as TVes, Venezuela’s first public broadcaster – and TeleSur – a regional network with support from multiple countries – have a much smaller reach than the private outlets. Furthermore, the government has never censored or “shut down” opposition media. The private channel RCTV faced a non-renewal of its broadcast license due to persistent legal violations including inciting political violence, but the station easily made the switch to cable.
MYTH: The Chávez government “has sought to remake the country’s labor movement in ways that violate basic principles of freedom of association.”
FACT: The Chavez government has actively promoted the formation of labor unions and bargaining by organized labor, but has not co-opted this sector. The National Workers' Union (UNT) was founded in April 2003 by workers supportive of government policies. In 2008, the government responded to an ongoing labor dispute between steel workers and the foreign-owned firm Sidor by intervening to negotiate a settlement, and when this was found to be impossible, the government reasserted state control over the Sidor plant in response to worker demands. The steel workers themselves were also allowed to purchase a share of the business themselves and thereby assert more control over the company.
MYTH: The Chávez government has pursued an “aggressively adversarial approach to local rights advocates and civil society organizations.”
FACT: The Chávez administration has encouraged local leaders to create community councils that let localities identify and address their own problems – from garbage collection to school construction. The concept comes from the belief that local groups know what is lacking and know what they want for their communities. Community councils democratize local government and give people the funding and capacity to make decisions for themselves. Also subject to local decision-making are many of the social missions that are designed to help reduce poverty in the most marginalized areas of the country. Health clinics, educational centers, subsidized food markets and other initiatives rely on local volunteers and are accountable to these communities.
CONCLUSION
The Human Rights Watch report “Venezuela: Rights Suffer Under Chávez,” provides an incomplete and biased account of Venezuela’s human rights record during the last decade.
It overstates the issue of political discrimination, accusing the Chávez government of targeting opponents, when in fact it has pardoned supporters of the coup and promoted open dialogue. The report is also wrong on the separation of powers and the media. The branches of government provide strong checks and balances, and institutions have improved since Chávez was first elected. No censorship of the media occurs, and the opposition still dominates the airwaves. In terms of civil society, labor organizations and community groups enjoy more support from this administration than ever before.
Venezuela has a strong record on human rights. Many of the important guarantees set out in the 1999 Constitution have indeed been enforced, particularly those relating to the fundamental needs of citizens, such as food, shelter, healthcare, access to education, employment, social security, and the right to participation in cultural life.
Human Rights Watch details none of the impressive progress made in these areas. For example, the UN Development Programme has found that Venezuela has already achieved some of the Millennium Development Goals, and is on track to complete the others by 2015. Notably, the country has seen a 54% drop in the number of households living in extreme poverty since 1998, and its overall poverty has fallen by 34%.[iv] Facts such as these provide a much more complete picture of the human rights situation in Venezuela.
[i] “Chávez pardons accused coup backers” Ian James, Associated Press, December 31, 2007.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/topstories/2007-12-31-1482318110_x.htm
[ii] Human Rights Watch, “Rigging the Rule of Law: Judicial Independence Under Siege in Venezuela,” June 2004, http://www.hrw.org/reports/2004/venezuela0604/
[iii] World Bank, Project Information Document, Report AB510, December 9, 2003, http://www-wds.worldbank.org/servlet/WDS_IBank_Servlet?pcont=details&eid=000104615_20040226144554
[iv] Instituto Nacional de Estadística http://www.ine.gob.ve/pobreza/LIgrafico2sem.asp
The Venezuela Information Office is dedicated to informing the American public about contemporary Venezuela, and receives its funding from the government of Venezuela. Further information is available from the FARA office of the Department of Justice in Washington, DC.
http://www.rethinkvenezuela.com/downloads/HRW%20Myth%20Fact.htm
Brian
Human Rights Watch in Service to the War Party
Including A Review of Weighing the Evidence: Lessons from the Slobodan Milosevic Trial (Human Rights Watch, December, 2006)
By Edward S. Herman, David Peterson, George Szamuely
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Part 1: Introduction — The Role and Biases of Human Rights Watch
Human Rights Watch (HRW) came into existence in 1978 as the U.S. Helsinki Watch Committee. Early documents affirmed that its purpose was to "monitor domestic and international compliance with the human rights provisions of the Helsinki Final Act." [1] But though a private U.S.-based organization whose vice chairman once stated "You can't complain about other countries unless you put your own house in order," [2] its main focus was on Moscow. Thus its literature also affirmed that founding the Committee "was intended as a gesture of moral support for the activities of the beleaguered Helsinki monitors in the Soviet bloc," and its early work was well geared to advance the U.S. government's policy of weakening the Soviet Union and loosening its ties to Eastern Europe. [3] While the organization has broadened its horizons and grown enormously since its $400,000 seed money from the Ford Foundation, it has never sloughed off its close link to the Western establishment, as evidenced by its leadership's affiliations, [4] its funding, [5] and its role over the years. Because of its institutional commitment to human rights and its broad purview, however, HRW has done a great deal of valuable work, as for example in helping to document the character and effects of the Reagan era wars across Central America, where its Americas Watch reports on the U.S. support for the Nicaragua Contras, the Salvadoran army and death squads, and Guatemalan state terror were eye-opening and led to intense hostility on the part of the Reaganites and Wall Street Journal editors. [6]
But despite these and countless other constructive efforts, the organization has at critical times and in critical theaters thrown its support behind the U.S. government's agenda, sometimes even serving as a virtual public relations arm of the foreign policy establishment. Since the early 1990s this tendency has been especially marked in the organization's focus on and treatment of some of the major contests in which the U.S. government itself has been engaged — perhaps none more clearly than Iraq and the Balkans. Here, its deep bias is well-illustrated in a March 2002 op-ed by HRW's executive director, Kenneth Roth, published in the Wall Street Journal under the title "Indict Saddam." [7] The first thing to note about this commentary is its timing. It was published at a time when the United States and Britain were clearly planning an assault on Iraq with a "shock and awe" bombing campaign and ground invasion in violation of the UN Charter. But Roth doesn't warn against launching an unprovoked war — though wars of aggression had been judged by the Nuremberg Tribunal to be the "supreme international crime" that "contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole." [8] On the contrary, Roth's focus was on Saddam's crimes, and provided a valuable public relations gift to U.S. and British leaders, diverting attention from and putting an apologetic gloss on their prospective supreme international crime.
Three years earlier, when the NATO powers had begun the bombing of Yugoslavia on March 24, 1999, HRW said nothing critical about that action; as we shall see, it focused mainly on the crimes of the target country then under attack. In a 1998 commentary for the International Herald Tribune, Fred Abrahams, an HRW researcher whose major focus has been Kosovo, urged regime-change for Yugoslavia, either through President Slobodan Milosevic's indictment or a U.S. war to affect the same outcome. "At what point will the Clinton administration decide that they have seen enough?" Abrahams asked. "[T]he international community's failure to punish Milosevic for crimes in Croatia and Bosnia sent the message that he would be allowed to get away with such crimes again. It is now obvious that the man who started these conflicts cannot be trusted to stop them." [9] This line also served the United States and other NATO powers well, and both cases show a clear adaptation of HRW definitions of human rights and choice of worthy victims to the needs of the Western powers and institutions that nurture the organization. (In Part 3, we deal with the mind-boggling misrepresentation of history in Abrahams' statement about Milosevic's unwillingness to stop these wars — in fact, Milosevic signed-on to every major peace proposal 1992-1995, whereas Abrahams' favorite state regularly sabotaged them.)
Roth's "Indict Saddam" starts as follows: "The Bush administration's frustration with a decade of porous sanctions against Iraq has led to active consideration of military action. Yet one alternative has yet to be seriously tried — indicting Saddam Hussein for his many atrocities, particularly the 1988 genocide against Iraqi Kurds." This clearly implies that the sanctions imposed on Iraq were ineffective ("porous") and that the administration's alleged frustration on that account was real and well grounded, establishment claims that were false and misleading and that an unbiased analyst might have had some doubts about at the time. We may note also the lack of concern with the "active consideration of military action."
etc
http://www.electricpolitics.com/2007/02/human_rights_watch_in_service.html
Brian
It's the final countdown for Jim's blog.
When ultraleft kooks drown the blogs with copied articles, it's the beginning of the end of such blogs.
The current ultraleft kooks should learn from a collegue of theirs: Quasimodo's aka el Grindio. At least he could articulate his nonsense and condense it to less than 1,000 words. You bipeds are so boring you even scared him off!
;-)
The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
I just can't wait to hear that these kooks will have to say against:
Amnesty International
Mother Theresa
Santa Claus
Easter Bunny
Valentine's Day
They probably have nothing against the Unabomber, McVeigh, or the Galleanists.
Hey, everybody. Let´s stop playing games!
We all know we are on the road to one world socialist order.
That it´s a british iniciative.
That Bolivia is one of the testing grounds for implementation.
So what!. How bad can it be. I mean after all it´s British, right?
Great Rock, best drugs in the planet, horniest chics, and scotch!
What the fuck else do you want, you stupid Bolivians?
Mike
Okay, while we're all distracted by the chavez mess, the morales supporters continue to close in on Santa Cruz. To the north they are in Portachuelo about 20 km west of Montero. they'll have another 20 km to Warnes and about 25 more to Santa Cruz. 65 km is about 35 to 40 miles. They should be able to cover that in 2 days. What a coincidence! That would put their arrival on 24 September, Santa Cruz Day, right in the middle of Expo Cruz! The fiscales went out to meet them. Apparently they (the MAS supporters) have stopped kidding us about coming unarmed. All the film of they showing off their rifles, sticks, dynamite and slings probably. Anyway, the fiscales asked them to leave the guns behind. They said only if the fiscales can guarantee their peaceful entry into Santa Cruz. Meanwhile they vandalized Portachuelo and threw explosives near what looked like a gas plant. The Catholic Church in Santa Cruz has been calling for a peaceful response when the campesinos arrive. Thursday was dedicated a day of prayer for just that. Unfortunately, it only takes a couple of hundred antagonists to turn this into another Porvenir and that may be exactly what morales is hoping for.
Now one thing might set this off a bit early. You have to cross Rio Pirai between Portachuelo and Montero. That would be a choke point - key terrain.
Well, I hope we can get through this peacefully. The guns, sticks dynamite and slings don't encourage me, but miracles do happen.
Mike,
The one world rule order is a masonic conspiracy, not a socialist one.
I find it very interesting that all of the sudden these commentators come of out of the woodwork when Chavez' name is raised. They were silent on far more controversial topics, but know they want to crucify Jim because he dared support a clearly left-of-center NGO, calling him a sell-out and acussing the rest of us of being on the CIA payroll. El ladron piensa que todos estan en su condicion, and thus I conclude that these are paid chavistas that scour the internet and troll on any board that dares question the little venezuealan rabid macaco.
To all: Do not feed the trolls.
Ey, troll buster!
"The one world rule order is a masonic conspiracy, not a socialist one."
I find it amuzing that you repeat part of the language in the troll´s comment, while you say "d not feed the trolls".
This reminds me of the argentinian novels on television
"CALLATEEEE...PELOTUDAAAAA!...., POR QUÉ NO PODÉS HABLAR SIN GRITAAAAR"
FPの家 評判 三洋ホームズ 評判 片瀬建設 評判 アットハウジング 評判 欧倫ホーム 評判 城南建設 評判 ユニバーサルホーム 評判 クレバリーホーム 評判 トヨタホーム 評判 エースホーム 評判 パナホーム 評判 アルネットホーム 評判 イワクラホーム 評判 大成建設 評判 コンチネンタルホーム 評判 ファイブイズホーム 評判 イシンホーム 評判 アイフルホーム 評判 広島建設 評判 セキスイハイム 評判 ミサワホーム 評判 東日本ハウス 評判 サラサホーム 評判 三井ホーム 評判 住友不動産 評判 一条工務店 評判 ヘーベルハウス 評判 土屋ホーム 評判 スウェーデンハウス 評判 東新住建 評判 高橋監理 評判 ガクエン住宅 評判 セルコホーム 評判 エスバイエル 評判 富士ハウス 評判 東栄住宅 評判 ハウジングタイホー 評判 大和ハウス 評判 アキュラホーム 評判 桧家住宅 評判 サンワホーム 評判 住友林業 評判 タマホーム 評判 セキスイハウス 評判 アイダ設計 評判 アエラホーム 評判 センチュリーホーム 評判 松下電工テクノストラクチャー 評判
Norm
'Okay, while we're all distracted by the chavez mess'
there is no Chavez mess...there is a US trying to mess with sovereign states..
'Apparently they (the MAS supporters) have stopped kidding us about coming unarmed. '
Quit kidding us, Norm: the whole world knows your buddies in the fascist right were using machine guns to kill Morales supporters.
Just ask Jim.
Brian
'After Violence, U.S. Role in Bolivia Questioned
September 22, 2008
Haider Rizvi, OneWorld US
NEW YORK, Sep 22 (OneWorld) - As tensions remain high between government and opposition in Bolivia, where more than 30 people have been killed in politically motivated attacks in recent days, a group of Latin America experts are calling for Washington to clarify its engagement in the internal affairs of Bolivia.
Bolivian President Evo Morales. © Gonzalo Jallasi / www.abi.boBolivian President Evo Morales. © Gonzalo Jallasi / www.abi.boThe U.S. government needs to "turn a new page" in its relations with Latin America, says an open letter addressed to U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, presidential hopefuls Barack Obama and John McCain, as well as other top U.S. officials.
Nearly 100 leading academics and foreign policy experts signed the letter last Friday, voicing their "deep concern" over the recent events in Bolivia that left dozens dead and cost millions of dollars in lost revenue to the developing nation.
The letter's signers, who represent dozens of top U.S. schools -- including New York University, the University of Maryland, and Johns Hopkins University -- as well as Latin America think tanks and journalists, said they were especially concerned about Washington's support for groups and individuals in Bolivia who are using violent means to oppose -- and potentially overthrow -- the popularly elected government of President Evo Morales.
etc
http://us.oneworld.net/article/357624-after-violence-us-role-bolivia-questioned
Brian, Brian, Brian. We have two sides involved here, both of which tend toward violence before reason, both of which have no problem with lieing to advance their cause. I saw Locojohn's "convincing" images from YouTube and was not convinced one way or the other. I haven't bothered to post on the right's assertions and counter arguments. I simply was not there and don't trust either side to tell the truth. There are a bunch of armed angry people heading to my city though and you're here debating whether chavez is right to hate the US... Yawn. Then if and when the bloodshed comes tomorrow, you will lay all blame on the citizens of Santa Cruz and paint the campesinos and miners as peaceniks just out for a walk with their stick, dynamite, and mausers. To be honest, I'm just calling you a liar before the lie this time. No offense intended; I've just seen this before.
Well it seems that the indigenous are just about ready to lay siege to Sta Cruz. The government's position is that they will be called off if an "agreement" is reached. They are armed to the teeth and have already beat up journalists....so where are the so called leftist human rights types? too busy smoking weed to post? "I was going to post, but then I got high"
On the other hand. Morales is promising to violate Fernandez due process rights, making him a shoe in for political assylum
"The letter's signers, who represent dozens of top U.S. schools "
What a blatant lie, the signers represented only themselves, and I'm sure they wackos with tenure. There's no need to lie.
So what do you think? How should Santa Cruz respond or react when the Movimientos Sociales come to town. Yesterday the fiscales asked the marhcers coming from Yapacani to leave the guns and dynamite behind. They were assaulted before they could finish the request. Marinkovic calls for a calm response.
They seem to be looking for martyrs, up to 50 of them.
Campesinos deny carrying Arms. Split screen shows weapons.
More peaceful Cocaleros armed and masked...
Use of Terrorism in Buena Vista peaceful march.
I hope to see a peaceful response and a peaceful solution. What I expect to see is the destruction of a number of shops in downtown as well as the homes of some prominent figures. morales will call them off if the Prefects sign the document in Cochabamba. And they have the nerve to accuse the US of chantaje!!!
Just a couple dozen well armed and disciplined professional soldiers could make these bullying ignoramuses run with their tails behind their legs. They're all bark but no bite.
If any would attempt to steal or destroy my property I would defend it (as Malcolm X would say) "by any means necessary."
;-)
The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
EVO Y SOROS EN NUEVA YORK
Un filón de plata en la mesa
• Las relaciones del multimillonario con el gobierno de Morales han sido la nota trascendente de la visita del mandatario boliviano a los Estados Unidos. Cenaron juntos y hablaron de negocios.
• Desde aquella noche, el presidente boliviano cambió 180 grados su discurso. Se especula que para los tiempos de la campaña electoral George Soros contribuyó con un millón de dólares al MAS.
• El operador de Soros en Bolivia es el ministro de la presidencia, Juan Ramón Quintana. Se le ha recomendado perfil bajo, mientras atiende el paquete de propuestas del multimillonario.
Con una fortuna estimada en u$s 7.000 millones, decir no a una invitación para cenar en Nueva Cork era pecado, ¡quién se hubiera resistido! Evo no fue la excepción, llegó hasta la mesa que Soros preparó para él y su más cercano colaborador: el Ministro de la Presidencia, Juan Ramón Quintana, a su vez director regional en América Latina de una de las fundaciones más importantes que maneja el multimillonario húngaro: Open Society Institute, para hacer negocios en el mundo.
Durante la cena con Morales, el filántropo terminó estrechando lazos con el presidente indígena al punto que consolidó acuerdos para que, junto al gobierno noruego, explote formas que les permitan a los funcionarios, indígenas, originarios y campesinos, adquirir la capacidad técnica para administrar el negocio de los hidrocarburos, recientemente nacionalizado.
No en vano Evo gritó a voz en cuello en mayo en El Chapare, su bunker cocalero, que “no estamos solos”. Lo que está explorando Soros en nuestro país con ayuda del Presidente Morales son las oportunidades extraordinarias para hacer negocios, pero de los buenos.
En Bolivia y con el gobierno del Movimiento Al Socialismo (MAS), Soros encontró “El Dorado”, parece de antología, pero de la mano de un indígena que ahora pretende cambiar todo, comenzando por reproducir el poder el 2008 y cubrir el Estado con una envoltura socialista, a imagen y semejanza de la Cuba de Fidel Castro y la República Bolivariana de Venezuela del coronel Hugo Chávez, ambos por demás, supuestamente “aliados incondicionales” del líder indígena.
Evo cenó con Soros en Nueva York. Pero el menú que preparó fue similar al que ofreció en 2003, cuando recién fue elegido Presidente de la Argentina Néstor Kirchner. El magnate húngaro repitió la misma receta y al parecer con resultados más que satisfactorios.
Soros penetró en Bolivia con veta de plata. Compró la mina más rica –San Cristóbal- ubicada paradójicamente al sudeste del departamento más deprimido de Bolivia, Potosí. El filón de plata debe entrar en producción el 2007, “a tiempo como para cosechar su parte del boom”. La inversión de Soros, para obtener ganancias descomunales, muestra el valor que algunos de los mayores administradores de carteras del mundo le asignan a la plata.
Junto con su hermano Paul, George Soros controla casi el 20% de Apex Silver Mines, dedicada a la exploración y desarrollo de minas de plata. La firma, con sede en las islas Caimán, tiene una mina abierta en nuestro país. El yacimiento es considerado por los expertos como uno de los mayores depósitos de plata conocidos del mundo.
Pero no sólo es la plata lo que mueve a Soros en Bolivia. El gas es otra veta para generar riqueza que está abriendo el multimillonario de la mano de Morales en nuestro país.
La apuesta es millonaria. La punta del ovillo está en la Argentina y el Brasil y el caballo de Troya tiene el nombre de Adecoagro, la empresa de Soros que compró a Pilagá. Actualmente, la compañía maneja 105.000 hectáreas en la Argentina, 20.000 hectáreas en Brasil y 5.000 en el Uruguay. ¿Cuánto manejará en Bolivia? La revolución agraria que promueve Morales a fuerza de una mayoría parlamentaria en el Congreso, podría estar abriendo otra grieta fabulosa para que Soros haga dinero en nuestro país.
La telaraña de negocios en gas y tierras parece estar en construcción por el norte argentino y el sur de Bolivia. El reciente acuerdo de exportación que firmaron Morales y Kirchner para comercializar hasta 20.7 millones de metros cúbicos de gas natural a partir de 2010 entre ambos países, ha despertado el apetito financiero de Soros, al punto que, información proveniente del Río de la Plata, pone al descubierto el interés que tiene el húngaro de alentar negocios fabulosos a partir de la importación de gas natural y la mentada aspiración boliviana para industrializar el energético, anhelo, por demás, que la Argentina espera hacer realidad pero para beneficio propio y no ajeno.
La visión de Soros para hacer negocios parece interminable.
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One has to place the bullying nature of certain posters in here in context (Norman, the anonymous screwball who thinks Croats are Jewish, Adriana, etc).
One thing they will probably never acknowledge is the link between Phillip Goldberg, John Negroponte, and the 'Kosovo option' for Bolivia. The viability of Santa Cruz as an autonomus region in the middle of South America is NIL without the active intervention of the United States. Santa Cruz will become a staging ground for the U.S. Military, with a local populace that is devoid of loyalty to the region, much less to Bolivia.
The upper middle class inhabitants of Santa Cruz are idiots. Plain and simple. Racist idiots, who are obviously not smart enough to understand that in these struggles the only 'good' loyalty is to the people, and not to capital.
The 200 000 dead Guatemalans clamor for your memories, Bolivians.
Now that I've ranted, read the following editorial that hints at this perspective ....
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The legacy continues.
Is it any wonder we are one of the most hated countries on the planet?
Talk about terrorism.
Friday 12 September 2008
by: The Center for Economic and Policy Research | Editorial
Washington, DC - The Center for Economic and Policy Research (CEPR) called on the U.S. State Department, the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), and other agencies to release information detailing whom it is funding in Bolivia - where violent right-wing opposition groups have wreaked havoc this week in a series of shootings, beatings, ransacking of offices, and sabotage of a natural gas pipeline - as well as in other Latin American countries including Venezuela. Recent events suggest there may be evidence for Bolivian president Evo Morales' assertions that the U.S. Embassy is supporting groups promoting violence and seeking "autonomy" from Bolivia, and the Center called on USAID and other U.S. agencies to "come clean" in order to demonstrate the U.S. government's good faith.
"Washington has decided to keep its ties to Bolivia's opposition shrouded in secrecy, and that's not conducive to trust between the U.S. and Bolivian governments," said Mark Weisbrot, CEPR co-director. "If Washington has nothing to hide in terms of whom it is funding and working with in Bolivia, then it should reveal which groups those are."
In the midst of the violence and property destruction, Bolivian president Evo Morales declared U.S. Ambassador Philip Goldberg "persona non grata" and asked him to be expelled, suggesting he is aiding organizations behind the violence and sabotage. Despite numerous requests filed under the Freedom of Information Act, the U.S. has not turned over all the names of recipient organizations of USAID funds. Bolivia is a major recipient of USAID money, with millions of dollars sent to groups there. The U.S. also funds groups in Bolivia through the National Endowment for Democracy and related organizations.
"USAID is not supposed to be a clandestine organization, but nevertheless the U.S. government refuses to divulge which groups in Bolivia are supported with U.S. tax dollars," Weisbrot said. "By providing clandestine aid to groups that are almost certainly in the opposition, it gives the impression that the U.S. is contributing to efforts to destabilize the Bolivian government."
The U.S. Embassy in Bolivia has been implicated in a number of events that suggest it may be seeking to undermine Morales' government. In February of this year it was revealed that the Embassy had repeatedly asked Peace Corps volunteers and a Fulbright Scholar to spy on people inside Bolivia. USAID has an "Office of Transition Initiatives" operating in Bolivia, funneling millions of dollars of training and support to right-wing opposition regional governments and movements.
At least eight people were killed and dozens injured in violence Thursday, the latest in over a week of protests carried out by organized youth groups in conjunction with departmental governors and other opposition leaders that also saw them sabotage a natural gas pipeline, vandalize government offices, ransack the offices of a human rights organization, and threaten to cut off natural gas exports to neighboring Brazil and Argentina.
Jim how is the below "democratic" in any sense of the word. This is the norm for Morales and MAS and if you will remember the way he came to power, knocking off three constitutional governments. Also readers plese note that the bulk of the MAS marcheres MUST participate as they are fined up to 200 bs a day and risk loosing their homesteads if they don't participate. They are the normal homesteaders, but they would drather be somewhere else. I have lived with them for years and something Jim does not understand is how incredibly authoritarian and out right faccistic the sindicato movement (and EVO's outlook) undeniably is. To leave that out of any analysis of Bolivia or the history of the current conflict is irresponsible or incompetent. I love these colonos with all my heart and it saddens me incredibly to see them used and manipulated once again for an socialsit elitist experiment they may end up in the deaths of some of the poorest but best people I know, the Bolivian colono campesino. They have gotten along well with their "Camba" neighbors for years until Morales and Linares came along. Those who foment hate between neighbors should repent and change their ways. God will judge them severly. The entire country should repent and stop the maddness and foreign reporters should report the whole story and not just half of it. Half truths is what has gotten Bolivia to where it is today.
God Save Bolivia.
El presidente de la República, Evo Morales, garantizó el retorno de la “paz y tranquilidad” a Santa Cruz, así como la suspensión de la presión campesina que amenaza con ingresar a la capital cruceña, sólo si los prefectos opositores firman un acuerdo en el que se comprometan a viabilizar hasta el 15 de octubre próximo la convocatoria a los referendos dirimidor y ratificatorio del proyecto de Constitución Política del Estado.
Los Tiempos.
Anonymous @ 1:39
The campesinos of the occident are the glue holding Bolivia together. They have a mission to fulfill.
I would defend it (as Malcolm X would say) "by any means necessary."
....We all know how that ended up for him. The militant Malcolm X approach is an epic fail. I'll take MLK jr and Ghandis proven winning approach any day. Takes longer, more patience and a smart cool headed leader, but is much more efficent.
Unfortunately I don't think that description applies to any leaders on either side.
Jim, I would agree with you that the Venezuelan government's response was heavy handed and unfortunate. Nevertheless I have always been uncomfortable with Human Rights'Watch...though they have indeed criticized governments on all sides of the political spectrum, the organization was created with the sole intent of monitoring the activities of the Soviet Union and served as a U.S. Cold War instrument during the Reagan administration. And when the record is examined, HRW has been a clear and vocal opponent of the Chavez government from the start. HRW was not a vocal critic of Chavez's less-than-democratic predecessors. The evidence does suggest a clear ideological bent within HRW that is clearly anti-Chavez at a time in which that country is clearly under siege from Washington.
So to be brief, I shed no tears for HRW, but nevertheless feel comfortable opposing Chavez's methods in this case, even as I support his mandate to continue a political process of change initiated by the Venezuelan majority.
Greg Berger
It might be added that HRW and Vivanco have been playing this counterinsurgent game for years. Here is a great example, dating back to 2004.
Greg Berger
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/al-giordano/2004/06/human-rights-botch-vivanco-venezuela
Evo, yet again, insists in taking a page of the Bush II book on democratic nest practices:
http://abi.bo/index.php?i=noticias_texto_paleta&j=20080923144125&l=200809180012_Leopoldo_Fernandez_es_acompañado_por_un_policía_(archivo)
and uses the legal term of "confinado"
So where are you anti-guantanamo guys???
HRW's report seems to be political in favour of right wing politics. The opposition's media outlets in Venezuela seems to be more open than the ones in the US but HRW has not done a report on the state on America's Media and George Bush's "democracy". While I think HRW has been a credible organization where there are real human rights abuses, I think this report is pure political and is going to be use as a tool by right wing organizations like the many "Think Tanks" on Capitol Hill. I remember when Sadam invaded Kuwait in the early 90's Amnesty International wrote a scathing report about babies being taken from incubators which turn out to be a lie and the informer was a daughter of a minister of government. This report was used as a tool for folks on Capitol Hill to start the first gulf war.
We have to be vigilant with these kind of reports that attack Chavez directly rather than talk about real human rights and human suffering...which in my view is much better than it ever was for the majority of Venezuelans than ever before. Of course the ruling class is feeling the presuure to give back some of their wealth but they are less than 20% of the society. I do not htink they will give up their wealth and power willingly so there has to be some restrictive laws made especially when there was an actually coup. Do you knw what wouold happen to anyone who tried a coup against George Bush?
Think People Think!!!
HRW go where you are needed...right now Venezuela is heading in the right direction for the most part...yes there are things that can be done better but the best way to do that is to recommend better solutions and to support those who want things to be better for ALL not for the few.
Peace.
Norman, Norman, Norman. We have ONE side involved here in lies and violence: the white right fascists, who are the ones using the machuine guns to gain what they couldnt thru voting: power. Thats so obvious, but at least you no longer deny the white colonialists are no longer pursuing peace.
'Then if and when the bloodshed comes tomorrow, you will lay all blame on the citizens of Santa Cruz and paint the campesinos and miners as peaceniks '
The point of YOUR peoples violence was to create chaos and violence in turn by the Morales supporters. Thats an old tactic. then you hope the media will use the big lie technique, and say over and over: its Morales who is the root of violence.
Brian
It's easy.
"its [sic] Morales who is the root of violence."
;-)
The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
First year in Bolivia Brian, huh? Ah well, morales called off the assault for a while. Good on him. We can relax and all it cost us was one fiscale with a broken foot and another loosing an eye. Have fun Brian and watch where you're walking with those blinders on. Norman out.
LOL
Brian acomplejado hijo de nadie, que te hicieron los k'aras?
You sound like those angry black males in the states blaming all their bull on the "white man" yet at the same time leaving fatherless children everywhere, pissing away their opportunities and calling fellow black youths who make something of themselves "sellouts"
Not everything is someone elses fault, sometimes Brian we have to look at ourselves and the leaders we appoint to represent us.
'First year in Bolivia Brian, huh? Ah well, morales called off the assault for a while'
What assault? All the assaulting was carried out by the right wing thugs, who decide (as in Thailand) that a good hissy fit would get them what they want. Had they done that in any western country, they all be in jail for terrorism.
I guesss its no surprise the only 'bolivians' we see on this site are whites, who by nature tend to be racist right wing conservatives.
Brian
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Episodios del mal periodismo, parte II
En mi último blog reprendí a mis cohortes de la izquierda sobre la historia que está haciendo en relación a que el embajador de los E.E.U.U. en Bolivia es la fuerza verdadera atrás del movimiento de autonomía en Santa Cruz, habiendo enviado a Phillip Goldberg aquí específicamente para esa tarea después de haber hecho lo mismo en Kosovo. Sugerí que, si la historia es verdadera, sería útil que aquellos que están escribiéndolo publiquen la evidencia – y ofrecí hacerlo aquí si me lo mandan.
OOPS!!
Sorry dude!
DO NOT BE FOOLED, THERE IS NEITHER AN INDIAN NOR A DEMOCRATIC CULTURAL REVOLUTION GOING ON HERE.
Morales came to power with the promise of change. As my political science professor in the U.S. told me, it was quite different from Chavez at the beginning. The social movements in Bolivia provided the accountability and brought decision making to what is called participatory budgeting and other progressive democratic innovations. Unfortunately, the process degenerated, the curse of Latin America took over (from Peron in Argentina to the PRI in Mexico and now Chavez): Populism, clientelism and the hijacking of the change process by the left wing elites: NGO's such as the Fundacion Solon, CIPCA and others. It became just a show with an Indian president to parade around the world and the government actually in the hands of old time marxists, opportunists , phonies and crooks who had been in the other right wing failed governments. These people we called "rabanitos" little radishes red outside and white inside, all middle/upper class hispanic bolivians. Nothing has really changed. No laws against racial discrimination were made, almost no spaces were open for indians with professional degrees in the state administration. In Bolivia us Indians could not even dream to have affirmative action such as in the US or quotas such as in Brazil. The new constitution was written by NGO's. So Evo turned closer to Chavez and followed his footsteps to stay in power for the sake of power. The social movements were pushed aside, divided between pro MAS government and independent and called only for mass protests and to be killed against the eastern right wing elites. So, Venezuela is more authoritarian, limiting freedom of speech and the Bolivian government will do the same. For us Aymaras and Quechuas (55% of Bolivia, the other 32 ethnicities together account for 7% and some number 200 people), we have the same masters fighting for their own interests, the right wing "patron" against the left wing "patron", but we put the dead bodies. KARALLANTA
Brian,
Quintana was the mastermind behind Pando..
1. It was an easier target than Santa Cruz.
2. The so called massacred campesinos were set up by him.
There are 5 dead Venezuelan Military members there (they were either leading irregular guerilla tactics with the campesinos or they were caught in the crossfire)AND the Bolivian and Venezuelan goverments are now trying to repratriat these bodies to Venezuela quitely.
Anon 10:49...your take on Quintana is another eg of fraud:
'Vindicating Quintana
....
"The problem is that there are people who deny the truth simply as a political position and say that everything that happens is Evo Morales' fault, and that underlies a strategy of misinformation that today is a big challenge for us Bolivian journalists," said Amanda Dávila, also a journalist, who was invited to Amalia's set.
Amanda Dávila expressed indignation that is shared by a majority of honest Bolivian journalists in regard to the way in which certain media outlets play the murderers' game, twisting the facts. During the retaking of the Cobija airport, the editors of some news stations from the east only showed the soldiers shooting into the air, creating a false image of them as repressors (when a week earlier the same soldiers chose to let themselves be assaulted by "Unionist Youth" [a fascist youth organization in Santa Cruz], including those who took their weapons, instead of opening fire); but these editors hid the images of the commandos armed by Fernández and find themselves behind the cameras uttering insults and threats; provoking.
"For example, Minister [of the Presidency, e.g. Prime Minister] Juan Ramón Quintana was accused of going to Pando to commit abuses, when in fact what this minister did, as President Evo Morales' closest associate, was to risk his own skin going to such a critical area, and finally, with the correct measure of implementing a State of Siege, pacifying the area, something that relieved all Bolivians and for which we should be thankful," said the journalist.
Some outlets accused Quintana of interfering in judicial affairs that should have been undertaken by the National Public Prosecutor's Office, and tried, unsuccessfully, to generate a conflict between the Minister of the Presidency and the Public Prosecutor over the arrest of Leopoldo Fernández, deliberately ignoring that Quintana – whose presence in Pando just hours after the September 11 massacre signaled a transcendent act of a national government with popular features – led the capture of the Pandino prefect not for the massacre in El Porvenir (where Fernández acted without a doubt as at least the intellectual author, a fact that the Public Prosecutor with justly establish); but for organizing aggressive rallies and meetings in the city of Cobija while the State of Siege restricted these types of activities.
etc
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10312
'There are 5 dead Venezuelan Military members there (they were either leading irregular guerilla tactics with the campesinos or they were caught in the crossfire)'
what venezuela military members? And if dead,who killed them but the rightwing terrorists.
anon 10:37 has been fooled :
'So, Venezuela is more authoritarian, limiting freedom of speech and the Bolivian government will do the same.'
Didnt your pol science prof tell you not to lie?
Most of the media in Venezuela are still in tyhe hands of the thuggish elite. If there was no 'freedom of speech'(= freedom to foment coups?), they wouldnt exist.
Since the media were engaged in the 2002 coup, they should be in jail.
'Kim Bartley and Donnacha O'Briain's documentary The Revolution Will Not Be Televised depicted the role of RCTV and the other private television stations in the run-up to and during the military coup against Chavez on April 11 2002.
The coup in Venezuela
Their low journalistic standards and aggressive antagonism towards the Chavez government were part of the coup attempt itself. They orchestrated a news blackout as the seizure of power took place.
"We (the coup organisers) had a deadly weapon – the media," Vice-Admiral Victor Ramirez Perez, one of the coup plotters, pointed out on Venevision on April 11.
RCTV and the other private stations were implicated in the planned events which led up to the coup d'etat. This was confirmed by pivotal extracts from a chat show revealing that a video statement from a military general had been shot in the house of a private TV journalist.
The scenes recorded in The Revolution Will Not be Televised the morning after the coup show journalists and military plotters boasting explicitly of their involvement "to make Chavez stay in the country ... then we activated the plan" to get the people on the street and, when things reached their peak, to "activate the army."
In this exchange, one conspirator says: "I must thank Venevision and RCTV."
http://www.vicuk.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=167&Itemid=63
Brian
Why are these Venezuelan interlopers and acolytes being so vocal in this forum? Most Bolivians are going about their daily business as they always have, paro o no paro. Yet the only ones here ripping their clothes and crying US Imperialism are these venezuelans and hippie gringos/kanucks/aussies? So nothing's changed, be they from the right or left, it appears that these foreigners still have the "white man's burden," and still know what best for us savages, brown, skinned people. I like to say to all of you: get the F out of my country. Anon 10:37 is the only one who is somewhat right about the lay of the land. The MAS at one point was accountable to the "social movements" but now is just a collection of "busca-pegas" and opportunists. Look at Quintana, he was Keiffer's right hand man at one point. Even Linera, used taxpayer monies to go to beauty contests abroad, so much for "change." The only change I see is him wearing more expensive suits.
The whole US conspiracy is a myth, is simply a call to rally the tontos-utiles-know-nothing, who would rather blame someone else than to see in the mirror who is responsible for how things are.
The fact is that in La Paz, it is suicide to try voice your opinion if this one is even constructive critcism, if you dare speak against them, they you better walk "con tu testamento bajo el brazo"
I'm sure none of you johnny-come-lately-to-join-the-revolution have any idea of any of the allusions made, so that's why you should get your arse out of my country. Go home and fix put your own home in order. Leave Bolivia to Bolivians.
Cuchi Cuchi worshipper once again made a fool of himself (the sad part is that he doesn't even realize it) during his UN speech at the General Assembly.
(let's obviate the fact that this self described "antiimperialist" yet a Chavez lackey, routinely uses his planes, crews, soldiers, equipment, petrodollars, and who knows what else)
As usual with incompetent lefty leaders (the glaring difference is this one has a particularly weird haircut), he blamed the consequences of his genocidal and racist government on the U.S. Hilariously, in a press conference, he said he was impressed with the dictatorial theocracy Iran's "development" and declared it as the "axis of humanity." (yeah, hanging the opposition and stoning others sure is that)
As stupid and ignorant Morales is, Bolivia's opposition is even more clueless. The only consolation is that we only have a little of 2 more years of this racist and genocidal megalomaniac.
;-)
The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
I have a friend in the army who was at the killings.
He SAW venezuelan officers shoot two campesinos. He is now supposed to be assigned to office work or intelligence in Santa Cruz.
I hope he makes it. He says it wouldnot be the first time he hides something this big.
That´s right 9:21.
ALL RIGHT EVERY BODY!!!
COME ON!!!. YOU HEARD THE MAN!!!
Let´s all make a line, please. You ma'am wait right over there... There in in that room... Yeah, yeah! that dark room right there...
You Sir.... Passport please...
Anon @ 1:56 pm:
I have a friend in the UJC who was at the killings.
He SAW civicos shoot down THREE campesinos, and he is now back in Santa Cruz, ready for the MASistas, should they decide to enter the city.
I hope he doesn't make it, and he says that this is not the first time the reactionary right has done something 'this big.'
(you are a moron, i.e.)
actually im not Anon but my stupid google blogger thing wont work
my tag is usually 'soyboliviano' even though not by birth
anon @ 9:21
what if im not venezuelan, or hippy or whatever and what if im married to a boliviana....im just gonna live my life and carry on like usual and try to make a living a make bolivia a better place...do i have to get the F out of your country....you sound like the whitey rednecks in US talking to the mexicanos.....
viva coroico
wait a minute...did i just read that venezuelans were shooting campesinos? i thought they were on the same "side"....were these campesinos refusing orders or what? although in the che movie he did put one through one of his own guys
most of you guys/gals accuse Jim of misleading and posting bs, but there is way more of it going on in the blog....Jews? Croatians? Katrina?? what in the hell are you talking about?
when is this big pow wow of the checker flag people supposed to take place in Santa Cruz anyway? Im sure there will be fifty different versions posted on here by the next day.....but its my fault i cant quit reading..
SOYBOLIVIANO
anon 1:56:
'I have a friend in the army who was at the killings.
He SAW venezuelan officers shoot two campesinos. '
Those must be the same two venesuelan officers who then preceded to eat their victims....
In other words...it never happened. Try not to lie so openly, esp when you provide no evidence.
Brian
anon 9:21:
'The whole US conspiracy is a myth, is simply a call to rally the tontos-utiles-know-nothing, who would rather blame someone else than to see in the mirror who is responsible for how things are'
This anony-mouse hears no evil and sees no evil, But thats what the Evil Empire expects esp of its adherents. The US has been engaged in overthrowing sovereign states and backing dictatorships for decades.
Here is a list of dictators the US has had friendly relations with over the years:
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Dictators/Friendly_Dictators.html
one of whom is a former right wing bolivian dictator:
'Friendly dictators
Abacha, General Sani ----------------------------Nigeria
Amin, Idi ------------------------------------------Uganda
Banzer, Colonel Hugo ---------------------------Bolivia
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The list can be updated to include Georgias Saakashvili, as well
Karallanta 10:37
Don´t be a cry baby ok? Of course we know this revolution is not about race or democracy. It´s all about money. Big Money. Drug money, comprende?
We are just trying to make Jim´s blog look good, so that Mr. Soros keeps writing the checks.
Now, you say you call rabanitos to the people who is red outside and white inside. Well maybe that´s in Northamerica where people call indians "red". In Bolivia indians are called brown. My favourite term is: LITTLE BROWN MUNCHKINS FROM HELL! Ain´t that just lovely?
Actually your lack of knowledge of such a basic fact has made me suspitious about your actual identity. You talk a lot about Solon, CIPCA, but you say nothing about OSI! Why? Because you´re trying to deviate attention from SOROS and Chavez? Chavez-SOROS-Quintana? SOROS-EVO?
Who are you Karallanta? Could you be.....SATAN?
Anons,
I'll see your "SAW Venezuelan officers shoot two campesinos" and I'll raise you a "SAW Norman shot FOUR campesinos".
Isn't making up shit, posting it and getting paid for it by the CIA and the prefectura just grand! :-)
I saw anon shoot FIVE campesinos!!!
I saw two campesinos shoot six anons! Poor wretches never stood a chance.
Mizuno Boy said,
"Cuchi Cuchi worshipper once again made a fool of himself (the sad part is that he doesn't even realize it) during his UN speech at the General Assembly."
I say,
Costas made a fool of himself at ExpoCruz. He called the cows chickens... Boy oh Boy, you should have heard the displeased mooing.
Luckily his current stint as "governador" will end soon and he will have a chance to reconnect to his Heifers. Then again, who knows? He is perhaps preparing immigration procedures to lands north.
I saw Morales get a decent haircut!
;-)
The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
EL HOMBRE QUE LLEGÓ DE CHILE (editorial El Mundo, 24 Sep 2008)
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> Cuidado con aquellos que creen que la decisión de los vagabundos del MAS de retroceder en su cerco y sus amenazas es triunfo de los lideres cruceños o aquellos que ofrecieron armas, en estas páginas quiero informarles que quien detuvo a la marcha de mercenarios del MAS fue el diplomático Chileno Gabriel Valdéz, cabeza de los garantes o testigos de las conversaciones entre Prefectos y Gobierno. Gabriel Valdéz es el representante de la Presidenta Bachelet, uno de los diplomáticos que más conoce el tema Bolivia, es un experto en el tema marítimo, encabezó varias comisiones sobre el río Lauca, es por eso que fue designado y se convirtió en la cabeza de los observadores internacionales. Pero… ¿qué sucedió?, cuatro hechos fueron los que marcaron el rumbo de una negociación en la que el gobierno pretendía someter a los Prefectos autonómicos. El primer hecho, la magnitud del acoso de las marchas que respondían a un guión de Palacio de
> Gobierno, que tenía en zozobra y amenazado a Santa Cruz y Beni, situación que podía agravarse con un enfrentamiento sangriento en el cual la posición de los países observadores se transformaría en cómplice. El segundo hecho fue la declaración de chantaje y extorsión que pretendió hacer el Presidente a los Prefectos de firmar o desatar la furia campesina sobre los festejos cruceños, sin cumplir los plazos estipulados previamente en un pre-acuerdo Tercer hecho, la conminación del Vicepresidente de secundar las declaraciones del Presidente y de no apaciguar a los movimientos sociales sino justificar las amenazas para que se firme si o si con la intimidación de que la mayoría aplastará a la minoría. El cuarto hecho es la negativa del poder ejecutivo de aceptar un fallo de la corte suprema de justicia que ordena el traslado de un Prefecto detenido a Sucre, esta negativa fue entendida por los observadores como una afrenta al estado de derecho
> y al respeto e independencia de poderes. Esto derivó a que entre anoche, la madrugada y esta mañana se le informe que los delegados de Unasur a la Cabeza de Gabriel Valdez, del delegado brasilero y otros delegados que secundaron la moción de Valdez, informen que se retiraban de la mesa de negociaciones dejando bajo la absoluta responsabilidad del gobierno lo que se pudiese desencadenar. El Presidente en ejercicio se comunicó con el Presidente y le informó las consecuencias de esta decisión a lo que hoy el Presidente Evo Morales desde Nueva York dispuso que sus 'movimientos sociales' se replieguen y desistan de la marcha hacia Santa Cruz. Por lo tanto no fue ninguna acción tardía de los bravucones que asustaron a los 'movimientos indígenas', fue la acción oportuna, inteligente y diplomática de un Chileno llamado Gabriel Valdez que le dobló la mano a Evo y a Álvaro, con diplomacia les derrumbó sus mitos y mentiras y finalmente los derrotó
> solo con la advertencia de retirarse. El día de ayer Evo Morales -que opacó la brillantez de un foro internacional con sus lamentos- tuvo una tarde de perros ya que nuevamente un solo chileno lo derrotó sin disparar un solo tiro, la acción de la diplomacia derrota la perversión de Evo Morales. La trampa de Evo fue el Unasur donde a la luz tuvo apoyo pero a puerta cerrada solo recibió jalada de orejas de Lula, de Uribe y el desprecio de Alan García que por escrito le mandó sus observaciones; quien usó y abusó de la política internacional fue derrotado por ella. Hoy los cruceños pasaremos un 24 de septiembre sin zozobra gracias a un hombre que llegó de Chile.
Huh?
Translation, please! This blog is for those of us who communicate with the language of Shakespeare: English.
;-)
The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
In other words, the only reason Morales' MAS armed followers did not enter into the center of the city of Santa Cruz armed was because of UNASUR representative Gabriel Valdez.
He is Chilean president Bachelets expert on Peruvian/Bolivian issues, and UNASUR's man overseeing the negotiations in Bolivia.
He sent a letter to Morales' government in which he stated that if his armed supportes marched into Santa Cruz he would immediately withdraw from negotiations and wash his and Bachelets hands of the violence to come. He is well aware of Morales' tactics and will protect Bachelets reputation at all costs, and will not allow her name to be associated with any coming violence.
no communicates in the the language of shakespeare anymore get real....and whats wrong with the language of Cervantes anyway?
which Jews are you talking about? the Jews that Hitler slaughterd, the hard right zionist jews or the rest of the jews in palestine, europe and the americas? im just curious to figure out your analogy..the floods in beni and katrina i kinda get
Thanks, anon 12:54. It certainly confirms that Morales indeed leads a racist and genocidal government (did I mention weird? Y'know, having relations with rocks and such).
anon 1:27
nothing wrong with cervantes language--for those who can understand it.this is an english blog ya dig?
regarding da jews i mean any of them because as a group they've always been very successful throughout history but many times massacred by the governments' of the countries they lived in due to envy,resentment,or simply looking for scapegoats.
da jews that hitler exterminated are an excellent analogy with the racist hatred morales demonstrates with the croats in bolivia. hence "the croats are morales jews."
;-)
The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
Which the difference between cooperation and political interference? Is Human Wrights cooperation? Chavez believes that it is interference in its country and Evo it is even in doubt, He doesn't have sustainable bases, up to where I know. Evo says that he has tests... but it never demonstrates them. So a reasonable doubt exists for not expelling to these cooperation entities. In the Referendum, illegal but do I legitimate, did Evo take out 67% of the voting, but did the country stop, where that voting is? The international community believes that Evo has but genuineness for that voting but it is not certain. The facts happened demonstrate this way it.
to conclude, alone I hope we can arrive to an internal peace in the country. For that if regrettably we won't arrive to a civil war. That at last it will divide us in nine different countries.
I apologize for my translation, I am not very accustomed to write in this language. Thank you
nor diego do you appear accustomed to reality.
got it...
i didnt run into any croatians in Santa Cruz nor did i hear anything about violence against then orderd by Evo, but that dosent mean anything either way
i did however see lots of menonites out in the farmlands near Santa Cruz (i think i was in cuarto canadas), does Evo give them the same treatment?
i saw on the tv last night that people were boarding up their shops near the plaza in Santa Cruz...what the hell is going on? Someone fill us in with out any political spin
Dear anon 5:12
The problem, I think, is that you forgot to take your B-complex vitamins for the last couple of weeks.
No ofense
If you didn't read "Editorial al Mundo 9.02 abvoe, all bloggers on this site need to. And JIM should too. Read it CAREULLY. International diplomacy saved Bolivia from a Blood Bath. Thanks Chile!!! At all cost the international facilitators need to stay in Bolivia.
Also La Razon is reporting the governemnet's own investigators are only reporting 10 total killed in Pando, including 2 autonomistas killed at Porvenir and one killed by the army when the airport taken over plus a soilder killed at the airport. That leaves 6 MAS campesinos killed at the pando "massacre" and 3 autonomistas killed also. It is appearing Pando wasn't such a massacre after all but simply a sad, tragic confrontation between armed groups of mobilized Bolivian citizens. No dead were found at the river crossing. The unaccounted for "missing" were apparently found waiting out the conflict at their "chacos".
http://www.la-razon.com/ultima.asp?id=678155
Stop and think about it for a moment. The "massacre" at pando while tragic, appears to be a clash between marchers and road blockers, but spun as a "massacre", almost resulted in an enormous blood bath of 20,000 armed furious campesinos marching on Santa Cruz.
And now we see from the above article he President and Vice President were ready to let it happen, and had it not been for the intervention of a Chilean diplomat acting wisely and quickly there surely would have been a terrible blood bath.
It is about time to stop the right wing of Bolivia, specially the few ones financing the gangs of drug addicts in Santa Cruz, Beni, Tarija, Sucre.
They keep disturbing the democratic process. It is almost three years, and they keep obstructing democracy in Bolivia.
Marinkovic, Costas, Fernandez, are just mafia padrinos.
Bolivia will only progress if these sold outs stop financing the tugs beating up and killing poor campesinos.
Only criminals can pretend that it is both ways. It is like blaming the victim after a rape.
Croats go home.
Anon 5:12
FYI, Morales HAS BEEN seizing the Menonite's lands, based on the principle that they are not "true" Bolivians.
Those poor guys are in a bind because their way of life forebids them from using violence, the only language that Morales understands. Just look at the comment above, that is the MAS for you: hate an Bush's cowboy mentality of not with us then against us. They don't even know the meaning of Democracy. They think it means the tirany of the masses.
In the National Revolution of the year 52, the campesinos believed that they will be similar to the "k´aras", in their moment the shift Government, the MNR led by Paz Estenssoro, had its own militia that you/they were the miners, which it used to scare that real mining oligarch that didn't share its fortune with the population, meanwhile, the bad MNR educated to its militia, since they gave them "chicha" and "coca" to sustain the National Revolution, they accustomed to give everything to these people, they didn't teach them to fish, they already gave them the cooked fish. Now my question is: which the difference between Morales and Paz Estenssoro? Does Evo have its SS (Social Sectors, NOT the Nazi) to which he has walking for all Bolivia. Who pays its feeding? Who pays them their viaticos? Who pays their Bolivian flags and Whipalas so new? the most alarming thing is that that nobody knows and if makes it the government, that is definitively corruption, the same as before. which the change that Morales proclaims is?
Pitifully the Bolivians don't have another leader able to brake EVO, the middle class Bolivians are castrated, afraid, and that scares me more for that people can react in a violent way. That is the reality in which live, the MAS it is the same thing, I hope now it is really the end of a stage. But as always, we will never fall to the abyss, I sometimes think that we should fall until playing floor to be able to react definitively.
Again I apologize for my spelling and my translation, I hope to improve for the next one.
The mafia finances the Juventud Crucenistas. Have you read La Razon today? A taxi driver declared that he gets paid 50 dollars per day to beat up "indians" destroy government buildings, and to terrorize poor people who happen to have dark skin.
The real criminals are the types like Leopoldo Fernadez, Costas, Marinkovick, and all the nazis financing racism, as a tool to destroy Bolivia.
Divide and conquer, it is so old that it sounds stupid, but that has always been the goal of the master minds.
Evo could have made so much more if the right wing zealots of Santa Cruz and the Goni's MNR, allied by the puppets of PODEMOS would have the decency to respect democracy.
Anon 12:21
That article you're talking about is originally rom ERBOL, in other words it has ZERO credibility.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the civicos had some sort of subsidy. However, I don't know. What I do know is that while I worked in Chapare for many years I can attest that campesinos from Chapare are threated with fines from their union leaders if they don't march and do what they're told.
My ayjados in the Chapare region are good people the evil thugs are their union leaders who manipulate them. Go to the chapare region, get to know some of the real people and you'll know what is going on first hand. It's no secret everyone there knows the union leaders threaten and manipulate the people for their own gains.
PS - If some of you Bolivian ex-pats believe the narco industry hasn't increased by staggering amounts you should really go visit Chapare. Then again what did we expect with the Cocalero union leader as the national president.
Anon 1:16,
Nobody thought it was funny that USAID was accused of financing the Elites in Sta Cruz, yet it was kicked out of El Chapare instead an no measures were taken against US citizens/operatives in Sta Cruz....must be harvesting season.
Union thuggery has always been dismissed by these gringo hippies, what else do you expect, you can't be a leftist w/o being a hypocrit. Not only do they force them to march, but destroy their fields if they attempt to plant a legitimate crop.
Anon 5:53 its me anon 5:12...im afraid i missed the meaning of your vitamin b comment....did it have something to with not being able to see and hear clearly or something (is that what vitamin b does?) if so you may have been reading my post as if i were still in santa cruz, which im not. its been a few months...at the time of the road block in santa rosa by campesinos.
the main point i was trying to make is that i saw (on TV)people who own business around the plaza in SC boarding up their windows as if expecting a hurricane and then we heard nothing...nada...for the last three days...i was wondering what happened?what is happening...The new york paper, allegedly one of our best, had one whole paragraph on the summit in Chile. So if i am to believe the post a few above this one...about 20 to 50 thousand evo supporters (armed?) were going to march to the center of S.C.? and probably meet heavily armed resistence? but decided against it because Bachelet stepped in?
And this was supposed to be because of the shootout/massacre which wasnt even in SC anyway?
Anon 3:17, Bolivia is a country that routinely edges toward the brink. In this example, thousands (the numbers are unclear... 20 to 50 comes from the leaders of the marches) of individuals were marching on Santa Cruz with objectives ranging from forcing the Prefectos to sign the accord with morales / MAS to demanding that Costas step down. Most of the marchers come from well outside the area; some from the Santa Cruz department, but many from Cochabamba / Chapare. Some are from the city of Santa Cruz, paid 200 bolivianos a day (about $28) and trucked out to march back in. There is a lot of money involved, probably on both sides. As to why they stopped... basically because morales told them to. In the end, he controls them. When he cannot accomplish his objectives within the system, he goes outside. The ends justifies the means. Why he told them to stop is up in the air. The Chile diplomatic solution certainly sounds as likely as any. He may have planned to go to the brink all along and then stop. Hard to say. He is certainly willing to risk / sacrifice a few lives to meet his objectives. I'm just thankful that we have the respite. Hopefully there will be a reasonably peaceful resolution. I don't think anyone doubts that morales will force through his constitution. The high hurdle was passed a year ago when he circumvented the 2/3 approval requirement. Now it's just a matter of how much the prefectos think they can get in the deal.
Maybe the “opinion” article, in El Mundo of Santa Cruz, that a Chilean diplomat single handedly halted the peasant March/Blockade is true. But an even stronger truth is that the marchers, unlike the mindless UJC mobs, stopped their blockade as soon as they got word from their community leaders.
The prefects, as everyone knows, got their reprieve but instead of solving the crisis they just announced their desire to act on another useless impulse, an impulse, most likely fueled by a fresh infusion of cash from their puppeteers.
They have decided to form a protectorate and renege on their offer to dialogue with the Bolivian government. Their supposed goal is to protect the interests of “their people” but as always these gentlemen are only looking out for number one, themselves and their associates.
I hope that El Mundo, that 'beacon of objectivity', writes an open letter to the already mentioned diplomat to ask him to stop the Lunatics at the helm of the MediaLuna.
Franco
-Gobierno denuncia acción separatista de cívicos al gestionar "protectorado"-
http://www.abi.bo/index.php?i=noticias_texto_paleta&j=20080926171427&l=200804290014_El_portavoz_de_la_Presidencia,_Iván_Canelas_(Archivo).
Anon 9:15:
'FYI, Morales HAS BEEN seizing the Menonite's lands, based on the principle that they are not "true" Bolivians.
Those poor guys are in a bind because their way of life forebids them from using violence, the only language that Morales understands'
Strange as its the anti-bolivian Opposition who are machine gunning civilians....isnt it? Morales has deliberatly held the police in check, while the anti-bolivian mafia attack the police.
Youd have more credibility if you didnt lie so brazenly.
Brian
anon 1:51
'Thanks, anon 12:54. It certainly confirms that Morales indeed leads a racist and genocidal government (did I mention weird? Y'know, having relations with rocks and such).'
Morales is no racist or genocide. But i notice the white racists are hoping by calling Morales a racist their very real racism will be concealed.
SO:
'Such ethnic slurs have no place in modern politics and yet the United States continues to openly support backward and racist figures in South America who hurl such insults with wanton abandon.
Take for example the case of Rubén Costas, an opposition figure in Bolivia. Speaking to his followers last month, Costas called indigenous socialist President Evo Morales a "macaca." Costas has also insulted Morales as an "animal" and a "monkey."
Fair skinned and European looking, Costas hardly resembles Bolivia's indigenous president Morales. Elected Prefect of the energy-rich, western department of Santa Cruz in 2005, Costas has become a key advocate for greater regional autonomy and a thorn in the side of the La Paz government.
Costas, like many of his white and mestizo racist followers, regard the Indians in the highlands with contempt. The Santa Cruz politician would like to retain control over the lucrative gas industry and deprive the cash-strapped government in La Paz of much needed revenue'
http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/18837
Brian
Bust of FARC terrorist leader is celebrated in Venezuela.
Although no with official endorsement from Chavez's regime.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gnQ-5aU2oAqovx-as842WxItT9ywD93ERC6G1
6 venezuelan soldiers die in cobija... the Bolivain and Venezuelan goverments are trying to cover it up... bodies are flown covertly back to Venezuela... Venezuelan irregualr guerilla intrusion into Boliva... what they call 4th generation warfare.... but in usual Venezuelan fasion it is a blunder
Brian:
Yes, Morales is a racist and is genocidal.
He constantly talks about "500 years of oppression" (I wonder what racial group that is directed to) and has deeply polarized the country with his intolerant rhetoric. Therefore, he's a racist, but the most dangerous kind. He doesn't hate whites because he considers them inferior, but because he considers them superior.
He is genocidal because he's about to surpass another president whom he called "genocidal": Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada. Granted, "genocide" is a word that has been loosely used and I don't believe it applies to Bolivia, but since Cuchi Cuchi worshipper defines "genocide" by the number of deaths during a presidency such as Goni's, well...Morales deserves to be called genocidal as well.
;-)
The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
Morales is no racist or genocide
No Anon 8:16. He isnt, but you are.Your hatred of Morales is based on his being a native bolivian. You use the new tactic of smearing your enemy with your own vice.
'He constantly talks about "500 years of oppression"'
yes indeed. I se you are a Holocaust denialist. Which confirms your racist and genocidical character.
Brian
I'm sorry, Brian, you said something? I wasn't even aware of your presence.
You may go and play with your toys again.
(uncontrollable laughter)
;-)
The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
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