An Essay About 'Experience'
Experience: (ex-pe-ri-ence) noun, active participation in events or activities, leading to the accumulation of knowledge or skill.If you strip away the months of campaigning, the millions spent, and the uncounted hours of news coverage, this year’s U.S. Presidential campaign really boils down to two words – 'change' and 'experience'.
Leaving 'change' aside for a minute, let’s chew a bit on that second word, "experience."
Everyone seems to be talking about it. For months Hilary Clinton said Barak Obama didn’t have enough of it, at least not enough to answer a phone intelligently at 3am. Now the Republicans have picked up the same refrain. Democrats, on the other hand now declare that John McCain’s Vice-Presidential pick, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, doesn’t have anywhere near enough of it to be a ‘heartbeat’ from the Presidency.
But for all this talk, talk, talk about ¨experience¨ no one ever seems to explain what they mean by it.
Above is what the American Heritage Dictionary on my shelf has to say (one definition among many). It implies that if a person has done a particular thing in the past that he or she will be wiser in doing the same thing in the future. Maybe.
Okay, let’s start with something easier than politics – driving. I got my drivers license a very long time ago and therefore qualify as an “experienced” driver. And it is true that after a few decades behind the wheel I am now unlikely to repeat the driving adventure I had at 19, when I backed my small Opel onto the hood of a freshly-painted yellow Corvette and drilled a hole through its hood with my exhaust pipe (its startled owner made a valiant effort to kill me afterwards). I am not, however an experienced Cochabamba driver (less than a year behind the wheel) which is one reason why I can never figure out where one is supposed to stop at poorly marked intersections. Along with other such foibles that have earned me the recent nickname “idiota.” So as far as driving goes, experience seems to be of use.
But how does the test of experience apply to political leadership?
Both McCain and Obama are running for President of the U.S. If direct experience alone was an indicator of wisdom for that particular job that we might conclude that George W. Bush would be, by far, the wisest person to hold it. He has been President for eight years and has had many Presidential experiences. But “wisdom” and “George W. Bush” are not terms one finds together in a Google search. And, as many have noted, few people brought as much experience to their jobs as Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, and their work didn’t turn out so well.
It turns out that experience only leads to wisdom if you learn from your mistakes instead of deny them.
So, given that none of the Democratic and Republican candidates have had actual experience being a President, what “experiences” have they had that simulate the job and what have they learned?
John McCain frequently cites the five years he spent as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam. That tells us that he knows how to deal with pressure and that is a good experience for a President to have. Truly, we do not want someone in the oval office who will “freak out” in the midst of a global crisis. “Freaking out” and “nuclear weapons” are a pair of terms we hope to not find listed together in a Google search.
Barak Obama worked as a community organizer in Chicago. As someone who has also been a political organizer for a good portion of my life I think this is useful experience. It surely taught him about what motivates people politically and how to engage people in a meaningful way in public affairs. That seems at least on par with George W. Bush’s MBA from Harvard and his stint as owner of a professional baseball team. I’m just saying.
Sometimes if you don’t have a lot of personal experience you can borrow someone else’s. This is what then-candidate Bush did with Dick Cheney eight years ago and it is essentially what Barak Obama is doing with Joe Biden – borrowing decades of foreign policy experience to compensate for the lack of having it personally. But, as Dick Cheney demonstrated, how well that works depends on whose experience you are borrowing. Sometimes borrowing doesn’t work out so well.
John McCain has taken a novel twist, borrowing someone else’s “inexperience” to try to compensate for his own overabundance of it, after many decades in the Senate. Governor Palin has said in various interviews that she considers her complete lack of experience in national affairs to be a key asset, allowing her to be open to fresh approaches. Maybe, but the fact that I have never flown an airplane doesn’t necessarily speak well for the “fresh ways” in which I might control a Boeing 727. Obama can at least point to four years on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
Nevertheless, to avoid leaving his pick for V.P. dangling as someone utterly without experience in foreign affairs McCain points to the fact that she serves just across the Bearing Strait from a newly aggressive Russia. Maybe I am alone in this, but that seems like a stretch, unless there is some secret threat of a Russian invasion of Juneau that we don’t know about.
That is not to say that Governor Palin does not have other experiences that could bring other forms of wisdom to the White House. She is a chief executive, albeit briefly and of a small-population state. That’s useful. She’s a Mom, and given recent revelations it seems that she has had to deal up close with some of the harder challenges that families have. That’s useful as well, if it has actually opened her mind instead of making it more closed (the Governor is strictly against abortion rights).
There is a rough parallel here in Bolivia, with the case of our friend Casimira Rodriguez, who served as Minister of Justice in the first year of the Morales government. Much ado was made, in Bolivian and globally, of the fact that Casimira had once been a maid. Missing from that caricature was the fact for two decades afterwards Casimira had been leading powerful efforts regionally, nationally and internationally, to organize household workers in defense of their labor rights.
I used to sell vacuum cleaners at Gemco a long time ago (I was particularly good at throwing dirt down on a carpet at the feet of startled shoppers) but when I am quoted in the New York Times or Miami Herald my vacuum selling days are rarely mentioned.
As Casimira observed amidst criticism of her appointment and of her not being a lawyer (the position was not a legal one, as is the post of Attorney General), “I certainly have experienced injustice.”
So when it comes to “experience” it does not all need to be of the traditional variety. The issue is not length of years served, or the prestige of the job, but the amount of wisdom gained and how that wisdom applies to the task at hand.
So, is experience is your thing, as opposed to positions on issues like war and health care (I personally find such things important) then take your pick:
Prisoner of war turned politician
Community organizer turned politician
Hockey mom novice governor
Senator forever
It’s a pretty diverse menu.
But I wish just one had sold vacuums. You just can’t discount what that teaches you about defending against foreign aggression, and carpet dirt.
A note to readers: I am off Wednesday to Argentina for two weeks for a project we are doing there related to citizen vigilance over public budgets. But The Democracy Center team will be on hand in Cochabamba to keep you posted on events such as the Electoral Court’s slap down of Evo´s plans for a December 7 vote on the new constitution, and other changes in the Bolivian wind.

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Lloyd Bentsen v. Dan Quayle
Even with one of the best zingers in history, it didn't matter. People vote for who is on top of the ticket.
McCain had a good call in Lebannon, as Obama in Iraq. McCain then sold out in order to become "electable" within the Republican Party. Obama keeps pushing his charm over substance.
Regardless, the quote on a contract on a McCain presidency has gone down meaning that we should be bullish on Obama. Only a fool would venture to say which of the two would be "best" fitted to handle what's to come.
You suck a lier, didn't you said you don't own or drive a car and get soak with the Bolivian experience in trufis and buses?
Oye, IDIOTA (aka Bolivialibre),
On the blog dated January 29, 2008, Jim wrote this as his first paragraph:
'I am once again a car owner, after going "dry" for nearly a decade.'
Thanks for showing the type of "idiotas" we have in Bolivia. By sofisticated software, we were able to track this idiota posting as anonymous as being Bolivialibre.
Susan Palin's "foreign policy" experience "commanding" Alaska's national guard as its "commander in chief":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDK-gC0Go7g
POTHEAD PALIN:
WASHINGTON - GOP vice presidential pick Sarah Palin accepted at least $4,500 in campaign contributions in the same fundraising scheme at the center of a public corruption scandal that led to the indictment of Sen. Ted Stevens.
The contributions, made during Palin's failed 2002 bid to become Alaska's lieutenant governor, were not illegal for her to accept. But they show how Palin, a self-proclaimed reformer who has bucked Stevens and his allies, is nonetheless a product of a political system in Alaska now under the cloud of an ongoing FBI investigation.
It's the latest in a string of revelations that have forced John McCain's campaign to defend his choice and the thoroughness of the background check of Palin, 44, a little-known governor who is new to the national stage. Palin stunned delegates at the GOP convention Monday when she announced through the McCain campaign that her unmarried 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, is five months pregnant.
With the convention still abuzz, the list of potentially embarrassing details grew Tuesday:
Palin sought pork-barrel projects for her city and state, contrary to her reformist image.
_Her husband once belonged to a fringe political group in Alaska with some members supporting secession from the United States.
_A private attorney has been authorized to spend $95,000 to defend her against accusations of abuse of power.
_She has acknowledged smoking marijuana in the past.
And this: Bristol Palin's boyfriend, Levi Johnston, plans to join the family of the Republican vice presidential candidate at the GOP convention, the boy's mother said. He left Alaska on Tuesday morning to join the Palin family in St. Paul, Minn.
Defending his choice and the team that helped pick her, McCain said Tuesday that "the vetting process was completely thorough." Campaign advisers at the convention in St. Paul, Minn., said Palin filled out a survey with 70 questions, including: Have you ever paid for sex? Have you been faithful in your marriage? Have you ever used or purchased drugs? Have you ever downloaded pornography?
McCain's aides maintained that Palin was a finalist from the start
But a senior Republican familiar with the search, who requested anonymity when speaking without authorization, said Palin had all but fallen from the radar until late in the summer when McCain — apparently unsatisfied with his working list — asked for more alternatives. Suddenly, she was a finalist.
When she was introduced as McCain's running mate last week, Palin portrayed herself as a political maverick in McCain's mold: "I've stood up to the old politics as usual, to the special interests, to the lobbyists, the big oil companies and the 'good old boy' network,'" she said.
But Alaska's first female governor has at times benefited from Alaska's entrenched political system.
As Palin campaigned unsuccessfully in 2002 to become lieutenant governor, she received contributions from executives at VECO Corp., a powerful Alaska oil field services company. Company founder Bill Allen has admitted the company steers its donations through a "special bonus program" in which executives received money and the company instructed them to donate it to favored politicians.
Allen pleaded guilty to bribery and corruption charges. He admitted the program violated federal tax laws and said it was used to keep his political allies flush with cash.
"If they're working with the oil industry, I'd like to help with their campaigns," Allen testified last year in the corruption trial of a former state lawmaker.
Steve Schmidt, senior adviser to the McCain campaign, dismissed the idea that a few campaign contributions years ago in any way diminished Palin's record as a reformer. "Gov. Palin's record fighting corruption and taking on these issues in Alaska speaks for itself," he said Tuesday.
Since Palin's nomination last week, these issues also are raising eyebrows:
_In her earlier career as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, Palin hired a lobbyist to help the tiny town secure at least 14 earmarks, worth $27 million between 2000-2003. McCain has touted Palin as a force in his long battle against earmarks.
_Her husband, Todd, twice registered as a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a fierce states' rights group that wants to turn all federal lands in Alaska back to the state. Sarah Palin herself never registered as a member of the party, according to state officials, though party members said she attended a 1994 convention with her husband.
_The state legislature is investigating whether she had Alaska's public safety commissioner fired after he refused to dismiss a state trooper who had divorced Palin's sister. Lawyer Thomas Van Flein said he is representing Palin both personally and in her official capacity as governor. He can bill the state up to $95,000.
_Palin opposed the U.S. government's listing of a variety of animals as endangered, including the polar bear and the beluga whale, both of which inhabit areas also rich in oil and natural gas.
_Palin previously acknowledged she smoked marijuana but said in a 2006 interview she no longer used the drug. "I can't claim a Bill Clinton and say that I never inhaled," she said.
• Palin's management style has come under scrutiny. When taking over as mayor of Wasilla, she asked top officials to submit resignation letters, resulting in several departures, including that of the police chief. The chief claimed it was because he supported her opponent in the mayor's race.
_Under her leadership this year, Alaska asked for almost $300 per person in requests for pet projects from Stevens, one of McCain's top adversaries. That's more than any other state received, per person, from Congress.
Palin has had her share of run-ins with Stevens, including a dustup earlier this year in which Stevens accused Palin of not being enthusiastic enough about his efforts to bring federal earmark money to Alaska. She has also called on Stevens' son, Ben, to resign as national committeeman for the state party.
She was among the first Alaska Republicans to urge Stevens to answer questions about the FBI investigation.
In the fundraising corruption probe, VECO founder Allen is cooperating with an FBI investigation that has already sent several state political figures to prison. He is expected to be the Justice Department's star witness at Stevens' trial later this month when he testifies about home renovations and other gifts he provided the longtime senator — gifts Stevens is charged with concealing on Senate documents.
Palin received $500, the maximum amount allowed by law, from Allen and VECO vice president Rick Smith. Several other VECO managers, including Pete Leathard, who came up with the idea for the special bonus program, also donated the maximum. Allen's son, a VECO employee, also donated $500. All the checks were donated the same day, except for Leathard's, which was dated two days after the rest.
John Cramer, one of Palin's treasurers for her 2002 campaign, said he doesn't remember any indications that the money came from a special company program.
The donations aren't evidence of corruption, and Palin is not among the lawmakers under investigation in the VECO case. But they undermine arguments that Palin has broken from Alaska's Republican machine, including Stevens.
"If you can take on Ted Stevens and that crowd in Alaska, you can handle the Russians," Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C, told ABC News this week.
But Palin didn't reach the governor's office picking fights with the Senate's longest-serving Republican. She was a director for a nonprofit group Stevens set up to increase the number of Republican women in government. Stevens also campaigned for Palin in 2006 and appeared in a political advertisement for her.
Palin has had her share of run-ins with Stevens, including a dustup earlier this year in which Stevens accused Palin of not being enthusiastic enough about his efforts to bring federal earmark money to Alaska. She has also called on Stevens' son, Ben, to resign as national committeeman for the state party.
She did not urge him to resign after his indictment, as she did after a state lawmaker was indicted. She said Stevens "has dedicated his life to the betterment of the state."
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McCain is a relic from the cold war, he can't wait to nuke Russia, Iran and everybody else, not to mention his grasp of the challenges to the US economy are lacking. Not good.
Obama is a snake oil salesman, all charm no substance. By the time he's in office and everyone realizes that he's just another typical politician it'll be too late. I find it very offensive that people compare this man to someone like Martin Luther King JR. He couldn't shine MLK's penny loafers.
Thanks Jim for bringing the discussion back to politics instead of gossip.
Wow man, all the great things in Bolivia happen on December 7, my birthday! On the night of December 7, 2005 the nightclub 'Tantra' opened in Cbba (now called 'Buddha Bar'); Kjarkas played at the Felix-Capriles in Cbba on Dec 7 2007 and now this (although not as important, yuk yuk).
Yes, dismiss my comment as that of an apolitical fool if you must, but hey, at least I keep the theme on Bolivia.
Bush's experience stopped at the ballpark? Come on, at least tell the truth, he was governor of TEXAS, for pete's sake.
Obama managed a campaign as his principal executive experience (his words). Please.
"all the great things in Bolivia happen on December 7"
"December 7, a date that will live in infamy..."
Franklin Delano Roosevelt after Japan bombed Pearl Harbor on that day.
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The above comment was mine. I screwed up posting it because, multi-tasker that I, El Grindio am, I :
1) concurrently made a business call to a Bolivian law firm that represents the EU's interests in Bolivia and they opine a 70% chance for civil war in SC based on a) arms shipments, b) hiring of Colombian mercenaries and c) "tierratenientes" not allowing implementation of the CPE since they will lose vast land holdings of a suspect nature; and
2) skimmed Terrible Ted's TV Guide listing for that new comedy:
"THE ANCHORAGE HILLS HILLBILLIES"
"Tonight's Episode: While Ma (Sarah Palin) is isolated preparing for her big speech, Pa (Todd Palin) gets lost in the Mall of America looking for a new suit. Sissy (Bristol Palin) and Goober Jr. (Levi Johnston) argue over telling the truth about baby Trig. Back home, Goober Sr. barricades the house from television reporters, while the librarian (Mary Ellen Emmons) prepares a list of books that Ma wanted banned. (Comedy, 2008)"
Note: the tv log omitted these facts;
1) the show's running time (4 years); and
2)that it was Pay-for-View:
A) greater deficit;
B) more war casualties;
C)more maimed veterans returning to cuts in domestic budget including their VA care thus leading to them a) not getting psych care; b) living under urban bridges or cardboard on urban streets; and c) substance abuse by them as they self-medicate their post-traumatic stress issues.
D) dropping dollar and spending power for Norman and retired expats;
E) diminished regard for the US government domestically and overseas; and
F) Goldberg's new post as ambassador to fledgling break-away republic Alaska (thanks to Palin delivering on her prior allegiances to Alaskan secessionist political party, AIP) where Branko, Costas and the entire UCJ have set up camp and war-room post Bolivian civil war.
El Grindio
And you had to go to the trouble to repost it?
I think the question lies in Obama's leadership skills, which in my opinion, dwarf those of the other two candidates. Here are some practical and real life examples.
I. Obama as Community Organizer
Excerpts and general idea from http://www.newsday.com/news/local/politics/ny-usobam0302,0,5627014.story?page=1
Nobody is claiming that Barack Obama ended violence and poverty on the South Side. What he did was to improve the quality of life for people there. He combined the mostly white "Friends of the Parks" group with South Side families. The partnership led to better and safer parks on the South Side.
"'Barack realized that to get things done, you need to mobilize people in a collaborative way,' said Gerald Kellman, the Chicago community organizer who hired Obama to work in the far South Side in 1985."
"'He was a bridge-builder,' recalled Friends of the Parks president Erma Tranter."
While he was doing his work as an activist in procuring job training for the poor, asbestos removal in local buildings, and pot hole filling on city streets, he was also training locals on how to speak for themselves.
"'He did not do our work for us, he taught us how to do it,' said Loretta Augustine-Herron, a far South Side schoolteacher who worked with Obama. 'We would come away knowing we could accomplish something.'"
"Obama trained his pupils almost obsessively and watched them like a den mother when they met with local officials. If they became rowdy, he would glide over to sit among them as a signal to quiet down.
"'Barack would tell us, 'Don't get angry. It will just stray your focus,' Augustine-Herron said."
"Obama earned a reputation for being civil during confrontations with authorities, according to Illinois state Sen. Emil Jones Jr. He met Obama when the community organizer was leading about 30 picketers to protest soaring high-school dropout rates. The rally took place near Jones' office and he invited the group in.
"'I was used to different groups coming in to state there was a problem. What impressed me about Barack was that he also had a list of recommended solutions,' Jones recalled.
"Their discussion led to DCP obtaining public funds for South Side at-risk high school students.
J"ack Wuest, executive director of Chicago's Alternative Schools Network, marveled at Obama's ability to obtain the grant. 'There were a lot of groups trying to get that money,' he said."
"DCP projects such as renovating parks did benefit Latinos and whites as well.
"Moreover, Obama held 'weekly brainstorming sessions' with his Latino counterparts and worked closely with them on several important projects, said Phil Mullins, the head of UNO, a social action group in Chicago that represents Mexican-Americans. One was a job-training program. Another was a successful campaign to stop a backroom deal between a waste management company and local leaders to expand a landfill into wetlands surrounding southeast residential areas.
"Obama supporters say he helped plan actions including a surprise visit by a group of whites, blacks and Latinos to a room above a bank where waste management officials were meeting with a local official to discuss the landfill expansion. The group surrounded the meeting table while one activist made a statement chiding local officials for making deals behind closed doors. Then the protesters filed out.
"'We were trying very hard to connect [ethnically diverse] neighborhoods and he was part of that,' Latina organizer Mary Gonzales said.
"Soon after the landfill protests, Obama left for Harvard. But he took steps to keep his group going, hiring away his ally Owens from Friends of the Parks to groom as his replacement and returning regularly to conduct training workshops.
"'Barack didn't just look back, he reached back,' said Augustine-Herron."
II. Elected Harvard Law Review President-First African American
The job used to go to whoever had the highest grades. When Obama was chosed, it went to the winner of a vote between the 80 editors of the law review.
This quote came from Derrick Bell, a Harvard professor at the time.
"You should not underestimate the significance of him being the first black president of the Harvard Law Review because that was and remains a very elite group. These were some tough folks. . . . It's almost as impressive that he was elected president of the Harvard Law Review as him being elected senator of Illinois."
And this from Bradford Berenson, a former lawyer in the Bush administration:
Even though he was clearly a liberal, he didn't appear to the conservatives in the review to be taking sides in the tribal warfare. The politics of the Harvard Law Review were incredibly petty and incredibly vicious. The editors of the review were constantly at each other's throats. And Barack tended to treat those disputes with a certain air of detachment and amusement. The feeling was almost, come on kids, can't we just behave here?"
III. His Record in the Illinois Legislature
Obama again used his style of more dialogue, less rhetoric in the Illinois state house. The leadership that he showed on a bill which required police officers to tape interrogations and confessions is a great example. When he proposed the bill, the law enforcement crowd was vehemently against it, and the Governor ran his campaign with voiced opposition against the bill, promising a veto if it passed. But by talking to the police and taking their concerns under consideration, he amended the bill enough to make it passable while still keeping its key provisions. The bill passed unanimously in the Senate, and the Governor signed it. How many times does that happen on a bill of substance, and not just a foolish and pointless resolution? Try never.
He was key to passing Illinois' first state Earned Income Tax Credit, and he got a state known for its dirty politics to pass its first ethics and campaign finance laws in over 25 years. He sponsored a bill that expanded health care to over 150,000 people in Illinois. He did all of these things with bipartisan support. People need to consider that these things are very hard to do without seniority in the legislative branch. He accomplished all of those things in only eight years, and those were just the bills with his name on them.
IV. His Record in the US Senate
Again, getting things done as a junior Senator in a first team is very hard in a body that stresses seniority. He cosponsored the McCain-Kennedy immigration bill that passed in the Senate before the House killed it. He partnered with Republican senator Dick Lugar to pass into law a bill that strengthened safeguards against weapons proliferation. Republican Senator Tom Coburn put a hold on that bill, only to have Obama convince him to let the bill go through. How did he do that? This from Jonthan Alter of Newsweek:
"According to Lugar's office, it was only Obama's unlikely friendship with Coburn that persuaded the Oklahoman to lift his hold and allow the bill to become law. The two senators from opposite sides of the spectrum go out to dinner (along with their wives) and clown around in the cloakroom, with Obama teasing Coburn that he can muss his hair, but Coburn can't muss back."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/117853/page/2
He also cosponsored a bill with Republican Chuck Hagel that required the President to present a plan to lock down loose nukes and weapons grade material. Both of these bills involved national security. I have yet to see any bills that Hillary Clinton has passed regarding national security.
He worked with Russ Feingold to get the Senate to impose ethics rules on itself, and again, did it with bipartisan support. He cosponsored a bill with John McCain to reduce greenhouse emissions. In a mere three years, since he has been campaigning since, I find those to be outstanding achievements for a Senator with no seniority.
V. His Campaign
When Obama's campaign started, he was seen as a novelty, just a foil to the inevitable Hillary Clinton and the popular John Edwards. He has turned that on its head, and leads in most general election polls. To do that in a few months is likely Obama's most impressive leadership achievement. And why has he been able to do it? Because of his ability to inspire regular people to action, which has created the kinds of grassroots organization that he has used to succeed in this election. His campaign has inspired record breaking turnout in primaries. He has won caucus states handily, and has put together an impressive winning streak. He has completely outmaneuvered Senator Clinton, who is a campaign veteran. If he wins the nomination, which he likely will, and the presidency, this campaign will be written about in the decades to come. He has been successful because of his ability to lure new voters to his fold, not just core voters. He has annihilated both of the remaining candidates in fund raising despite being not nearly established as they are.
And none of that takes into account his position on the War in Iraq.
If what you have read above isn't great leadership, I don't know what is.
Ted V.
And then there's always this from the Republicans at the "National Review":
'... Another incredible allegation emerging from the family war is that Palin, a mother of five, had an affair with a former business associate of her fisherman husband, Todd.
“Todd discovered the affair and quickly dissolved his friendship and his business associations with the guy,” charges an enemy. “Many people in Alaska are talking about the rumor and say Todd swept it under the rug.” '
Palin's speech was a grand slam, a slam dunk, a 50-meter goal, a home run, a "dormida" ... call it what you may, but her informative, gracious, eloquent, and witty speech caused lefty orifices to tighten up with fear and anxiety.
That includes lefy mainstream media, which grudgingly admitted that "a new star is born."
McCain gave Americans another reason to vote for him (other than the Obama-Biden Laden [OK, I jest] ticket): compañera Sarah Palin.
;-)
The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
Our Momma beats your Obama
Tougher in Alaska...
Silly neophytes like Grindio are playing straight into the trap set by McCain by focusing the debates on the VP rather than on substantive topics like McCain's positions. As I said it on the first post, what matters in November is who is on TOP of the ticket.
Now isn't this a Blog about Bolivia? Aren't the geniuses over at MAS planning to lay siege to La Paz in order to put pressure on Sta. Cruz? I hope nobody tells Evo that Sir Issac Newton was a "gringo" lest we have a never ending set of marches against the "Imperialist Law of Gravity"
Readers,
Please do focus on the VP's lack of ethics and qualifications. She would be a 72y.o-thrice melanoma-surviver's heartbeat away from being the president of the world's most powerful nation that is in a dangerous decline. Said debate addresses a twofold threshold issue: McCain's sell out to the extreme right-wing of his party as shown by his reckless choice of Palin (over more worthy women like Olympia Snow or Kaye Hutchinson).
Incidentally, I did not lose millions. I only lost thousands (don't you hate when that happens).
I'll be a little busy for the next couple of weeks since I need to make money not lose it and I need to develop some projects.
Yep, lefties feel really threatened now. Why, oh, why, didn't Obama choose Hillary as her running mate?
The real danger, Quasimodo, is to elect a political neophyte with bad economic policies for POTUS with "ZERO" experience managing anything. It's real laughable how you mention Palin's supposed "lack of ethics" (no substantiated example, of course) while failing to mention the other VP choice as an admitted failed plagiarizer, to say the least.
You're political prognosis is as worthy as your "debate" skills or your supposed investment strategies, which is a big ZERO.
Other than that, you're a swell biped.
;-)
The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
So many Palin ethics violations; so little time. Where to start? How about the newest, besides the adultery allegations.
This just in: Ethics Complaint filed by police union against Palin
"Aides to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin improperly obtained her former brother-in-law's state police personnel files and cited information from those records to raise complaints about the officer, the head of Alaska's state police union said Thursday...
In an ethics complaint filed Wednesday, the union names the governor and three aides, one of whom cited Wooten's records in a tape-recorded call to a state police lieutenant in February. And the former commissioner, Walt Monegan, said he believes his refusal to fire Wooten led to his firing."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/04/palin.investigation/index.html
Later, got people to see; things to do.
This just in:
Palin speech pulls in $8 million —
for Obama
Posted: 08:08 PM ET
From CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser
The Obama campaign is pulling in cash following Palin's speech.
(CNN) – Barack Obama's campaign says it has raised more than $8 million from over 130,000 donors following Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin's speech Wednesday night.
The campaign also says it is on track to raise $10 million before John McCain takes the podium at the Republican National Convention tonight.
This just in:
Palin to refuse to testify; Troopergate emails revealed:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/04/politics/washingtonpost/main4415043.shtml?source=mostpop_story
Regarding the weird person's response to Grindio that incredibly asked for examples of Palin's ethics issues when this blog is littered with posted examples, here's the most recent ones, her lies last night:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Conventions/Story?id=5726571&page=1
On Obama, Earmarks, Palin Less Than Honest
Palin's RNC Speech Bent the Truth on Her Record and on the Opposition
By RUSSELL GOLDMAN
Sept. 4, 2008—
In a rousing speech at last night's Republican National Convention, vice presidential hopeful Sarah Palin, the governor of Alaska, touted her record, attacked the opposition, and in some cases bent the facts.
"PALIN: "[Obama] is a man who can give an entire speech about the wars America is fighting, and never use the word 'victory' except when he's talking about his own campaign."
FACT: On July 15, in a speech in Washington, D.C., Obama twice used the word "victory" in reference to Iraq.
"In fact," he said, "true success in Iraq -- victory in Iraq -- will not take place in a surrender ceremony where an enemy lays down their arms. . . I want Iraqis to take responsibility for their own future, and to reach the political accommodation necessary for long-term stability. That's victory. That's success. That's what's best for Iraq, that's what's best for America, and that's why I will end this war as President.
A week later in Berlin, Germany on July 23, Obama used the word "victory" three times to describe Allied successes during World War II. And in a June speech about the prospect of universal healthcare, he said Sen. Hillary Clinton "will be central to that victory."
"PALIN: "There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform -- not even in the state senate."
FACT: The meaning of "major" is open to debate, but Obama worked with Republicans, including Sen. Richard Luger of Indiana, to pass legislation that would expand efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. While a state senator in Illinois, he sponsored two contentious bills, one that studied racial profiling by police and another that ordered interrogations in potential death penalty cases to be recorded.
"PALIN: "I fought to bring about the largest private-sector infrastructure project in North American history. And when that deal was struck, we began a nearly $40 billion natural gas pipeline to help lead America to energy independence. That pipeline, when the last section is laid and its valves are opened, will lead America one step farther away from dependence on dangerous foreign powers that do not have our interests at heart."
FACT: That infrastructure project has not yet been approved by Federal regulators. The proposed pipeline would ship natural gas from the Alaska's North Slope to homes and businesses across the U.S. In June, the Alaskan legislature, with Palin's prodding, agreed to pay Canadian energy company TransCanada $500 million as an incentive to build the pipeline.
"PALIN: "And I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending: nearly half a billion dollars in vetoes. I suspended the state fuel tax, and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress 'thanks, but no thanks,' for that Bridge to Nowhere."
FACT: While serving as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, Palin hired Steven Silver, a former chief of staff for Sen. Ted Stevens, to lobby Congress for earmarks. Wasilla received around $27 million in federal money, about as much as Boise, Idaho. Boise has a population of 200,000 people, compared to Wasilla's 10,000. Earmarked funds went to sewage improvements and improving roads connecting the town to a local ski resort.
As for the "Bridge to Nowhere," Palin initially supported using federal funds to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to Gravina Island, which has 50 residents and a small airport. It was not until the plan was ridiculed that she withdrew her support. Critics contend she still supports using federal money to build a 3.4 mile "road to nowhere" on the island for $26 million -- from the funds for the bridge.
"PALIN: While I was at it, I got rid of a few things in the governor's office that I didn't believe our citizens should have to pay for. That luxury jet was over the top. I put it on eBay. I also drive myself to work.
FACT: Soon after entering office, Palin put the state-owned Westwind II jet that her predecessor Frank Murkowski's purchased amid much criticism. When the deal fell through with the sole eBay bidder, the plane was sold offline.
Alaskan businessman Larry Reynolds paid $2.1 for the jet after learning about it from Republican John L. Harris, speaker of the Alaskan House of Representatives.
Palin drives herself to work. In July, her Chevy Suburban was rear-ended while driving from Wasilla to her office in downtown Anchorage.
Two words: hypocrisy & humor
http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=184086
"Regarding the weird person's response to Grindio that incredibly asked for examples of Palin's ethics issues when this blog is littered with posted examples"
Do you seriously and with intelligence read blogs and consider it news??????????
WHAT a joke! 99% of the blogs out there are TRASH from either side. Non-supported rumors, filth and spewed bile.
INVESTIGATE for yourself only substantiated claims. BTW, this goes for many "news sources" also such as the Daily Kos that showed us this week that they are another trash publication.
This just in:
Since McCain unveiled Palin as his choice for the number two spot in Washington - the Facebook group
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A hundred new people are joining every 10 minutes. Join now! Be the first kid on your block to join.
EG: "This just in: Ethics Complaint filed by police union against Palin"
This just in??? Old stuff and the only ethics question to date. You know very well it's being investigated and as of this morning, nothing substantial has been found to prove Palin's guilt.
STICK to facts and NOT rumors.
And don't go off talking about pregnancies again; unless you want to talk about Palin lying about Trig, that he is really her grandson. Thus showing lack of judgment in believing another lie.
Reading Comprehension 101:
Different ethical violation; different day; filed Wednesday and posted Thursday because it was "just in".
Oh, don't forget that it was I who raised a red flag about the Trig story since I thought it might be a setup from Karl Rove. But who knows what all the Palin dark secrets will reveal.
Railin’ on Palin
Has the left made a mistake?
by Victor Davis Hanson
NRO The Corner
Why Do We Like Palin?
Much has been written why Palin both brings strength to the McCain ticket and is a gamble at the same time. Why then the growing wave of popular sentiment in her favor?
Various reasons, but one I think is that millions of Americans are simply tired of being lectured at by smug elites. Jetting Al Gore made tens of millions finger-pointing at us about our global warming. Obama's America, apparently unlike Rev. Wright's Trinity Church, is a cruel, downright mean and dysfunctional place. John Kerry's United States is one of the half-educated in need of Ivy-League enlightenment and tutorials.
So along comes someone (unlike Biden's vastly inflated middle-class biography) who really is from the working class. She likes it — and finds snowmobiling, hunting, fishing and living in small-town America not as a wasteful use of carbon-emitting fuels, cruelty to animals, gratuitous depletion of our resources, or proof of parochial yokelism. Instead it is a life of action in an often harsh natural landscape, where physical strength is married to intelligence to bring us food, fuel, and progress.
Palin's symbolism is the antithesis of the metrosexual wind- or body-surfing politician, and hair-plugged, neurotic TV pundit. So at this time, right now, millions apparently like Palin's atypical 19th-century profile. Again, it's a pleasant change of pace from Harvard Law School, D.C. politics, "community organizing" and the can't-do, 'they raised the bar on me' collective complaint.
If she can beat off the frothing Newsweek/MSNBC/New York Times inbred rabid wolves, and do it with the grace she has shown so far, she will fill a deep yearning among Americans for someone like her. A lot of Americans, if they watch reality shows, prefer truckers on ice or Bering Sea crab fishing to endless psychodramas of thirty-something suburban whiners.
So apparently they are eager to see a rare politician who is unapologetic about America's past achievements (cf. Obama's "tragic history" and need for more "oppression studies"), and who reminds us with pride that a muscular world of action, not community organizing, creates the bounty that others use and take for granted but so often sneer at the methods of its acquisition.
Right now, there are millions rooting for her in a way not true of Biden — and many who are criticizing her don't have a clue why that is so.
To Palinize...
Palinize: to slander and caricature a working-class female public figure for the noble advancement of liberalism.
Sarah Palin — self-made woman, and governor of Alaska — is being reduced by the left to a hickish, white-trash mom of five, analogous to the manner that esteemed jurists like Kenneth ("cigarette lawyer") Starr and Robert Bork were slandered by the media as incompetent right right-wing fanatics, and Clarence Thomas was pilloried as an affirmative action sex-maniac.
Why does the left and liberal media, in McCarthyite fashion, now seek to destroy rather than just oppose these public servants?
First, there is the anointed’s notion that the noble ends justify the slimy means, that whether the issue is abortion or affirmative action or any other hot-button social gospel, the supposed interests of the many override the common decency that should be afforded the few.
We are supposed to think that given one's cosmic sense of fairness and caring, the white knight always is afforded a little human leeway in slaying dragons in the here and now. To save the utopian vision of "two nations" John Edwards, presidential candidate, hundreds in the media passed on verifiable stories of his adultery, the financial support of his mistress, and his blatantly untrue assertions in public press conferences; by the same token to stop "one nation" Palin, the private life of a 17-year old girl must not only be aired, but distorted and in some cases invented.
Second, as in the case of a Palin or Thomas, there is the notion that the slandered deserve it as interlopers — unauthentic women or minorities due to their conservative views, who piggyback on the hard work of feminists and those in the race/identity politics movement. They purportedly do not show enough appreciation and deference to the pioneers who suffered so much to give us abortion on demand, quotas in hiring, etc. and as ingrates thus get what they deserve. For talking-head feminists that a Sally Quinn, Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton — unlike Sarah Palin — had a well-connected, influential male around to energize her career is of no concern — except perhaps to make the animus against the outsider upstart even greater.
So class plays a lot too. The liberal left buys into the Gore notion of offsets — that by backing ever more entitlements, and public assistance, the caring liberal is allowed to feel a little tsk, tsk about Alaska moose-hunters, teenage white girls getting pregnant, and small-town mayorships, without incurring the charge of elitism. Writing a story about a struggling family or an illegal alien wrongly deported, introducing a bill to help working moms, announcing that an Obama speech is the equivalent of the Gettysburg Address, all that lets you unload on the Palin's teenage daughter or Palin herself in ways that any unbiased observer would consider sexist, snobbish, and condescendingly cruel.
Being a mother of a Down syndrome child, raising five children, rising, without money or family influence, to the governorship on an anti-corruption and commonsense platform, in addition to trying to run the largest-sized state in the union, critical to both the energy and defense security of the nation, all that should have made liberals and feminists, if reluctantly, nevertheless appreciative of her success in a mostly male political world.
Not this week, perhaps — but soon there will be a backlash against all this creepiness. Just watch...
Don't Tread on Me!
Palin bites back...
Tonight I flipped to CNN and was struck by the talking heads flipping out about the Giuliani/Palin mocking of community organizers — as if the Obama team's dismissals of "small-town" mayors was fair play. The MSM networks are going ballistic at her speech and apparently never imagined that anyone would dare bite back — and also at them, the 'elite media' of the press, no less!
Compared to what Kerry et al. said about McCain, Palin was no tougher on the other side, so it is odd to hear CNN female pundits suddenly shocked, shocked that a "woman" would dare attack a man like that, and that it may "not play" outside the hall. Like it or now we are back in a cultural and populist war, brought on by a week of liberal character assassination.
The Left made a terrible mistake in the manner they have smeared Palin, and now they seem appalled at the red-state authentic populist backlash which is a different sort than studied Bidenism, where one recalls a distant childhood, not the recent past, or the living present, to prove they are one with the people.
So things heat up and are getting ugly as they always seem to do by September in an election year. Today it was no accident in the wake of the attacks on Palin that suddenly Obama comes out with pro-abortion ads attacking the pro-life position of McCain. The timing is a sort of subtext about the current and recent Palin Jr. and Sr. pregnancies: apparently Team Obama wants the viewer to see a pregnant teenager and a Down syndrome child and ponder something like: "under John McCain abortion in these cases would have been impossible."
Obama's lies, lies, and damn statistics (besides association with ultra racists, a drug laden past, etc.).
"Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama accepted his party's nomination Aug. 28, speaking before more than 84,000 people in Denver's Mile High football stadium. Some of his comments were worthy of a ref's yellow flag."
Obama said he could "pay for every dime" of his spending and tax cut proposals "by closing corporate loopholes and tax havens." That's wrong – his proposed tax increases on upper-income individuals are key components of paying for his program, as well. And his plan, like McCain's, would leave the U.S. facing big budget deficits, according to independent experts.
He twisted McCain's words about Afghanistan, saying, "When John McCain said we could just 'muddle through' in Afghanistan, I argued for more resources." Actually, McCain said in 2003 we "may" muddle through, and he recently also called for more troops there.
He said McCain would fail to lower taxes for 100 million Americans while his own plan would cut taxes for 95 percent of "working" families. But an independent analysis puts the number who would see no benefit from McCain's plan at 66 million and finds that Obama's plan would benefit 81 percent of all households when retirees and those without children are figured in.
Obama asked why McCain would "define middle-class as someone making under five million dollars a year"? Actually, McCain meant that comment as a joke, getting a laugh and following up by saying, "But seriously ..."
Obama noted that McCain's health care plan would "tax people's benefits" but didn't say that it also would provide up to a $5,000 tax credit for families.
He said McCain, far from being a maverick who's "broken with his party," has voted to support Bush policies 90 percent of the time. True enough, but by the same measure Obama has voted with fellow Democrats in the Senate 97 percent of the time.
Obama said "average family income" went down $2,000 under Bush, which isn't correct. An aide said he was really talking only about "working" families and not retired couples. And – math teachers, please note – he meant median (or midpoint) and not really the mean or average. Median family income actually has inched up slightly under Bush.
Etc.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/156246
Can we get back to talking about Bolivia. If I want a debate on US politics there is Politico.com, but for Bolivia, this is probably it.
Afterall, didn't the UJC beat up a month old baby until it bleed in the plaza yesterday? Weren't there some bombs planted in some public/private buildings? Isn't Evo trying now to use Military Courts to try civilians??? Isn't the US Embassy about to file a complaint for the cocaleros taking over their NGOs in the chapare?
Agree.
Dunno.
Dunno.
Dunno.
Oui.
For answers to these and other exciting questions, tune in next week to As Bolivia Squirms.
Gold rg and his favorite Croats are repeating the Yugoeslavian crisis, caos, war, and spliting.
How powerful their green dollars are, joined with local nazis wealth.
Poor Bolivia, so miserable, due to Evos lack of balls to distribute arms to his supporters the civicos and other fascists will take over the country. More crooks in power.
Sad really sad but democracy seems to be ending at the hands of the croats, local mafia, and support of the golden vice. The military the police are absent. Why? Because they are with their lack of action supporting the push from the ultra right wingers.
Those of us who dream about real democracy in our country feel betrayed by the hipocrecy of the master minds from the north in close relationship with their local puppets.
"The military the police are absent. Why? " anon 10:11 PM
Perhaps President Morales does not want to resort to the tactics that President Goni ... used to quell the rebellious faction. And that, my dear sir, or madam, is a positive thing.
Buffy :)
My comment is this:
I think foreing people should not try to interfere in my country´s politics.
It´s not POLITE.
Tenk yu!
Señorita Buffy!
Can you please post a picture of you, if possible a full body picture. Hehemm. I am curious, thas all.
Tenk yu, again. Permisito!
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Is this blog about democracy IN Bolivia?
Was it not Evo himself that led strikes and blockades ... some of his own tactics are being used against him now?
If he got such a legit majority (2/3)... why is the country in such upheaval... could the central issue be similar to the opposition in Venezuela?... One man...centralized power? Even Simon bolivar said power should not be given to one person for too long.
Will the venezuelan loyalty payoffs to military leaders in order to avoid a coup work?
What ever happen to that Lt Navas guy who blew up the tv station? Is he out of jail... is he back with his unit. Where is he?
Lastly... will the military leadership comply if given orders by Evo to crush their own people?
Evo's defining statement...
....."I've learned that, above what is legal, there is politics. Given that, when my advisors tell me 'Evo, what you are doing is illegal', I just go ahead and do it and tell them: 'if it isn't legal, make it legal. That's why you studied..." ... Evo Morales
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