Sunday, January 25, 2009

Bolivia Votes on a New Constitution

Update Monday Evening

The Obama administration weighed in today on yesterday's Bolivia vote, prodded to do so by a reporter at today's daily press briefing at the U.S. State Deprtment in Washington.

Here are the comments of the State Department's acting spokesman, Robert A. Wood (Jan. 26, 2009):

Question: Do you have any reaction to the referendum which was held in Bolivia which is widely seen as kind of a power grab by Evo Morales […] ?

Wood: We congratulate the Bolivian people on the referendum, and I don’t think the results are final at this point, but we look forward to working with the Bolivian government in ways we can to further democracy and prosperity in the hemisphere.

Question: Do you have an opinion on whether this referendum furthered democracy in Bolivia?

Wood: Well, a free, fair democratic process certainly does contribute positively, but what I said was I wanted to wait until we can see the final results. But we certainly do congratulate the Bolivian people on that referendum.

Posts from Sunday

10:00 pm:
The Leaders Speak


With clear results in showing a strong 60% to 40% victory for the new constitution, the leaders of the main factions of the nation spoke publicly to their supporters.

Santa Cruz Governor Ruben Costas spoke first, declaring that Bolivia was in “a tie” over the issue [editorial note: This probably rules out any future career for Costas as either a soccer referee or math teacher]. He declared that those who had voted No did so to stop the violence in the country and to block Morales’ efforts to create a totalitarian state.

Interestingly, Santa Cruz civic leader Branco Marincovich sounded a rare conciliatory tone, calling on the government to work for a social pact that would allow the two factions of the nation to live in peace with one another.

In La Paz, meanwhile, Morales sought to put the constitution vote in deeper historic terms. Speaking from the Presidential Palace he told supporters that the vote marks the clear legal recognition of the nation’s indigenous people, “those who have been the most discriminated against, humiliated and excluded.” He called on the governors, mayors and sector leaders in the country to come together to implement the various autonomies set forth in the new constitution.

That’s it for tonight. We’ll have more in the coming days as the final results are tallied and the political fallout from this historic vote becomes clear. There is no doubt that this marks a significant turn in Bolivia’s history. However, what that significance will be in practical terms remains far less clear.

Thanks for joining us for our election coverage today.

8:15pm:
Constitution Passing with 57%

The results are still preliminary and vary somewhat depending on the media source, but the margins are all wide enough that there is little doubt of the result. The constitution backed by President Evo Morales and MAS will be approved by a solid majority of about 57% Yes / 43% No.

Bolivians are still waiting for their President to walk out onto the balcony over Plaza Murillo in La Paz, to make his victory comments, and for his adversaries to have their word as well. In Cochabamba groups are setting up in the Central Plaza to mark the victory with music. But a few things are key to note based on these preliminary results.

One is how deeply polarized Bolivians remain by region. According to UNITL, for example, the constitution was approved 75% to 25% in La Paz, while it was defeated 35% to 65% in Santa Cruz. In fact, the Morales/MAS victory, while substantial, is based on winning four out of nine of the nation’s departments.

Similarly, the nation is deeply polarized between rural and urban voters. ATB reports that, with 95% of the votes in, urban voters approved the constitution a 52% Yes / 48% No, while rural voters backed it 82% to 18%.

What does all this mean?

It means that Bolivia has a new constitution, passed legally and fair. It means that there are likely to be conflicts ahead as the regions that reject it declare that they are not bound by it. It means that if the opposition has any real desire to become a marginal force nationally, it needs to figure out how to do more than run commercials with Jesus on television and begin to speak to rural voters who never saw their ads. It means, as before, that Morales continues to enjoy solid majority support for his political agenda, but no so solid as four months ago (when he won 67%). And it means that Bolivia remains a fractured country that will be hard to govern.

6:30 pm:
OAS Says all Normal

Well, the polls are closed now and the counting has begun. Amidst charges of fraud from Morales opponents, the OAS, which has 68 election observers out in the field today, has issued its first statement.

The OAS says it looks to it that the voting took place with full regularity. But that preliminary analysis is based simply on a finding that most all of the nation's polling places has the required equipment and materials so that people could vote. It is doubtful that MAS opponents, especially if they lose as expected, will drop their charges of pressure on voters. But if they believe that Morales support in the rural areas of the country is manufactured rather than valid, they haven't spent much time talking to people in the countryside.

1:00 pm:
A Quiet Day of Voting

We’ll be blogging here periodically throughout the day. As of 12:35pm it appears that voting is going smoothly throughout the country, on this day without cars on the roads or legal drinking (both are banned on Election Day). Radio Erbol reports that 40% of the nearly 4 million eligible voters had already gone to the polls by noon.

Some of the opposition governors – the usual Evo adversaries from Chuquisaca, Santa Cruz, and Tarija –have been claiming for weeks that the National Election Court is engineering electoral fraud today on behalf of President Evo Morales and his backers and they have called on international observers to go to the countryside where, the governors claim, pressure is being used on voters to support Morales and his proposed constitution.

Nevertheless, it seems commonly believed here that the new constitution backed by Morales and his MAS political party will easily win the simple majority vote (50% plus one) that it needs to gain approval, though it may receive substantially less than the 67% support Morales won in last August’s referendum vote.

The campaign was marked by remarkably little activity on the street, except in the very final days, but a virtual carpeting of the radio and television airwaves by both sides, much of it pretty wild. The religious-backed ads featuring rival pictures of Morales and Jesus, may have crossed a new high water mark for political overstatement. But that’s a tough competition to win.

What does seem clear from most of my conversations the past few weeks is that this vote, like all of the recent national votes (the August 2008 referendum on Morales and the governors, the Constituent Assembly vote in 2006) is not so much about what is on the ballot as the person not on the ballot today, Morales. The content of the proposed constitution seems to be secondary to the basic question: Do you support Evo or oppose him?

Today Morales remains politically strong, mainly because out in the countryside and in places like El Alto, he can count on 4 out of 5 voters to support him on virtually anything. In August that translated into a renewed mandate and the dispatch of two key rivals among the governors. Today it will likely mean approval of a new constitution. But if those numbers drop substantially below what he won four months ago, that will also be a measure of how solid his support will remain as the opposition struggles to unify behind and anti-Morales candidate in the December elections that would be triggered by that same new constitution.

More later today, and we hope others will use the comments space today to share their observations as Bolivians vote.

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34 Comments:

Anonymous galloglass said...

Jim, you still have never addressed "community" voting, threats of fines or loss of property, indelible ink on fingers that washes off easily, cloned or false id's, dead people voting (including some of the UNASUR victims),the use of tax dollars for political ads, I believe it was $18 to $1 for the SI vote, etc..ad nauseaum...is this democracy from the bottom up?

3:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bolivia is slowly becoming another Venezuela. I'm surprised to read you're cheerleader for Morales.

4:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn, the Bolivian opposition is possibly even more deranged and gullible than their Venezuelan equivalents.

Yeah, like electoral fraud is a possibly when there is barely an indigenous person in the entire country against Morales.

4:47 PM  
Anonymous galloglass said...

Anon 4:47:
That's quite a racist statement for a defender of indigenous people. "Barely and indigenous person"?? Are they all some sort of lumpenfolk who can't think for themselves? I have many friends whose parents are campesinos from Oruro, Potosi, etc. and want nothing to do with Morales and his constitution even though they have felt the sting of racism.

4:59 PM  
OpenID jfzarama said...

Great day for Bolivia; the opposition would like to maintain the controlled franchise on natural resources and keep the natives as peons.

Morales has changed that and I am amazed at what he has been able to do in the face of money and influence internally and externally to derail his work.

Bolivia needs the new constitution for Morales to continue with the necessary change that took about 500-years to get to this point; the force be with you Bolivia. Congratulations to Evo Morales, MAS and all the citizens of La Repubilca Bolivariana de Bolivia.

7:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is indeed tremendously important, as Presidents may come and go but Constitutions will stay and this one provides a much needed change. (Can you see my smiling face?)

12:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry anon, in Bolivia, Constitutions also come and go...I believe that this is number 19 and people have lost count of how many times the earlier ones had been ammended

12:07 AM  
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12:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The rural vote was over 82% because Bolivia is mainly indigineous, the urban vote in the western departments has won because of the native roots. any NO vote is mainly due to the brainwashing of the media and the sold outs plus cholos and birlochas who wish they were white, or actually believe they have european blood when they are just a cheap version of Malinches.

Why only 60 % rather than the 67% of a few months ago?
Why in the oriental departments the NO won?
Questions that Evo and the MAS have to think about on the next few months rather quickly.
What bothers me is that the landowners who stole land or were given freebies from the Nazi military regimes or the mafia of the civilian MNR, ADN, MIR will get to keep their ill obatined lands.
Viva Bolivia and their new Constitution.

9:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Although support for Cuchi Cuchi worshipper has eroded, the country is polarized as ever. Sliced geographically and ideologically in half. It reminds me of Marc Falcoff's "The End of Bolivia?" written in 2004. He adroitly and prophetically divided Bolivia in 2 regions, the ones that even today slice the country in half, and wrote about the possibility of civil war. I only hope that if the country is divided in half, the part north of Caranavi will be annexed to the "Media Luna" region.

For me, this "constitution" is a terrible (and illegal) one and will only cause more confrontation, misery, racism, and victimization in the country. The possibility for Morales to be reelected (brrrrrrr!) is strong, although many things can happen until the next presidential elections in a few months. If the economy sours even more (lower commodities prices, less petrodollars from sugar daddy Chavez, loss of ATPDEA, less foreign investment, etc.) that means that opposition policial leaders (Mesa, Joaquino, Cardenas, and others) will have a real chance in the elections. Perhaps then this god-awful new "Constitution" will end up where it deserves: at the bottom of the trash dump.

;-)

The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
The Israelis are the good guys

9:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trash dump? That is where racists like you belong. You are claiming Caranvi as yours? I hope piranas eat your guts some day to revindicate the fish that you kill with your pollution from the gold mine waste coming out from your mines.
If Jesus would be alive he would join forces with Che to get rid of the scum like you.
Patria libre of maggots like Costas and you.

10:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pirañas will eat my guts when your grammar improves to a 5th grade level...which means never.

;-)

The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
The Israelis are the good guys

PS By the way, the known gold isn't in Caranavi, but Guanay and Tipuani. The other sites are secret.

11:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Jesus would be alive he would join forces with Che to get rid of the scum like you.
Patria libre of maggots like Costas and you.

10:52 AM
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Oh wow, these are the type of people who align themselves with Evo. Last time I checked there is no historical reference to Jesus being an incompetent murderous egomaniac.
This constitution is a disaster for Bolivia, the sad part is most people who support it have never taken the time to read it or even know of its contents.

Some people deserve their governments.

11:41 AM  
Blogger bowsie said...

Why only 60 % rather than the 67% of a few months ago?

67% of people did not want Morales re-called.
60% of people wanted the constitution.

They are two separate issues. Support for Morales does not mean support for the constitution. It's like when Morales' success in the recall was interpreted as a 12% increase in support for him, which it never was.

It's perfectly conceivable that those who supported Morales a few months ago in the recall feel exactly the same, but may have voted against the constitution because they felt it didn't go far enough on land reform, for instance.

11:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

20:14 Exeni sigue hablando en TVB y RTP... ATB, UNITEL y UNO muestran un triptico "autonomico" de Savina, Branko y Suarez. Sera que mencionan honestamente lo que el presidente de la CNE esta puntualizando sobre la eleccion, incidentes, violaciones al auto de buen gobierno, y etc.?


20:16. Branko dice que tienen todo el derecho de pertenecer a este pais, y que el pueblo tiene todo el derecho de escucharlo. Bueno, y?

20:17. Casimira anuncia, despues de 10 minutos, que ahora si van a dejar que escuchemos a Exeni.

20:18 Exeni explica que la CNE ni las CDE's han dado ningun resultado oficial de ninguna manera, que todo hasta ahora son estudios preliminares... sera que alguno de los talking-heads asume esta responsabilidad, o van a seguir hablando como si el 40-60% es un resultado oficial, que obliga a algun tipo de dialogo aunque la aprobacion es con 50% + 1?
do
20:20 ATB vuelve con los "autonomicos", con la fiesta por....???... en Tarija.

Simultaneamente, en TVB, se menciona como los medios privados asumen una actitud politica al dar inicio ellos mismos, al discurso de la derecha que hablara de una victoria regional, parcial, del NO, y de altos porcentajes en occidente. Seran capaces de rectificar cuando los resultados oficiales muestren una victoria mucho MAS contundente del SI?

20:23 Costas dice "el NO freno en seco el poder total"....????? "el no triunfo en nuestra tierra" "un respeto y homenaje al pueblo boliviano por participar"

20:24 Ahora ATB tiene seis pantallas, mostrando el fin de el informe de Exeni en La Paz, Cochabamba y los cuatro "autonomicos". Los subtitulos no nos han informado un carajo de lo que realmente dijo Exeni, pero los "autonomicos" tienen sus palabras muy coordinadas con los medios privados.

12:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One more constitution.. same old problem...

Justo Perez

2:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How can a constitution be illegal? It seems to have passed the correct procedures and was then voted in by 60%. I'm honestly curious. I normally try not to stoop to your level.

2:21 PM  
Blogger Norman said...

Actually you could argue on 16 different levels that the new consititution did not pass all procedures correctly, but that would be so last-year. As to 60% vs. 67%, the first thing to remember is that it's likely that not all the numbers are in yet. In previous votes, late numbers from rural areas tended to increase morales' numbers. For better or worse, Bolivia has this new document. I'll be interested to see what the implications are in the next year or two.

2:45 PM  
Anonymous El Grindio said...

Obama has congratulated Evo on the new constitution. And extended his hand in an offer of help, which is in accord with what Obama stated (in his inaugral speech) his policy would be. Let's hope does not commit a gaffe or misspeak. This is a historic moment: Bolivia and the US have once-in-a-lifetime leaders dedicated to bringing change that benefits the majority instead of vested special interest or a narrow privileged class. Does this mean the end of the CIA de facto policies and its nefarious schemes to perpetuate the power of easily controlled ogliarchs?

See article below:
EEUU saluda resultados del referendo y se ofrece trabajar con el Gobierno de Morales

Washington, 26 Ene (Erbol).- El Gobierno de Estados Unidos felicitó este lunes a su similar de Bolivia por el Referendo Dirimidor y Constituyente celebrado el domingo y se ofreció trabajar con la administración del presidente Evo Morales, según el despacho de la agencia Efe.

La administración estadounidense a la cabeza del nuevo presidente, Barack Obama, tendió así la mano a la gestión gubernamental de Evo Morales, que consiguió la reforma constitucional que propugnaba en la consulta popular, de la que dijo que contribuye al proceso democrático del país

"Felicitamos al pueblo boliviano por el referéndum", dijo Robert Wood, un portavoz del Departamento de Estado, dirigido ahora por la ex senadora Hillary Clinton.

"Estamos deseando trabajar con el gobierno boliviano de forma que podamos promover la democracia y la prosperidad en el continente", afirmó Wood en una rueda de prensa.

Preguntado si el referéndum ha reforzado la democracia, Wood respondió que "un proceso democrático libre y justo ciertamente contribuye positivamente" a ese fin.

El portavoz dijo que no opinaría de los resultados porque aún no son definitivos.

Según los datos preliminares, con el 34,9 por ciento del recuento efectuado, un 52,8 por ciento de los bolivianos respaldaron la nueva Constitución, y un 47,11 por ciento la rechazaron.

Sin embargo, el rechazo a la nueva Carta Magna fue superior al apoyo en varias regiones gobernadas por la oposición autonomista, lo que amenaza con agravar el conflicto regional del país.

En los últimos meses, en las postrimerías del mandato de George W. Bush, la tensión entre La Paz y Washington aumentó tras la expulsión del embajador estadounidense por parte del gobierno de Morales, a los que EEUU replicó con la misma medida.

8:21 PM  
Anonymous El Grindio said...

ERRATA:
Let's hope [EVO] does not commit a gaffe or misspeak.

9:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5th grade education? Thank you croat, even at first grade level I can tell you clearly enough that you are a liar who distorts the reality of the country and the world. Viva Bolivia libre of crooks and corrupted people like you.

11:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"ERRATA:
Let's hope [EVO] does not commit a gaffe or misspeak."

Are you kidding? "Gaffe" or "misspeak" is Cuchi Cuchi worshipper's middle name. Actually, I'd change it to "gaffe and misspeak."

To hope otherwise is like asking the world to stop rotating in its axis, the sun to stop rising every morning, or you to stop being a Spanish cultural imperialist in an English blog.

;-)

The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morale's Katrina
The Israelis are the good guys

9:12 AM  
Anonymous El Grindio said...

It is appropriate to support one's claims by setting forth fully herein datum (from its original source, particularly if its Spanish):
1)This is a "Blog from Bolivia" designed to help build democracy in Bolivia
A) Spanish is the primary language of Bolivians that log on;
B) Posting evidence in Spanish insures accurate context;
C) Spanish reflects the language of Bolivia and lends an international flavor that makes it user-friendly to Spanish-speakers interested in helping build their democracies;
2) This blog appears to build cultural understanding for those interested in Bolivia thus posts including Spanish motivate learning Spanish which then assists understanding the Bolivian socio-economic context along with the culture; and
3) Reading Spanish only harms those being paid to post drivel, hate-speech or ad hominems so as to obfusticate the reader's understanding or otherwise discourage this blog's stated goal of building democracy from the bottom up;
4) The posts of the above commentator should be disregarded for
A) generally being opinions disguised as facts;
B) mostly being wild, unsupported claims that never come near presenting a sound, valid or verifiable argument; and
C) stemming from a source lacking in credibility since the commentator claims to be an Afro-Bolivian who resides in the Yungas thus one with no reason to complain about reading Spanish. Unless... he can't read in Spanish and is not paid enough to bother reading text let alone translating it from Spanish to English.

3:21 PM  
Anonymous El Grindio said...

Words have meaning.

As to "gaffe or misspeak" versus "gaffe and misspeak":
gaffes can consist of nonverbal communication that can be in the form of a visual image more powerful than a thousand words.

3:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't see Jim posting in anything other than English, do you? Blog etiquette, dawg!

;-)

The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
The Israelis are the good guys

3:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"B) Posting evidence in Spanish insures accurate context;"

Evidence? .... Grindio, the majority of the crap you spew is just that... crap ... not evidence.... please

10:33 PM  
Anonymous El Grindio said...

Anon 10:33,
Your post shows how incomplete your substandard education was.

The Bolivian article quoted Obama's State Department spokesman, Robert Wood. His statement evidenced Obama's congratulating and extending an offer of support to Evo's government, as can be clearly read below:
'"Felicitamos al pueblo boliviano por el referéndum", dijo Robert Wood, un portavoz del Departamento de Estado, dirigido ahora por la ex senadora Hillary Clinton. Estamos deseando trabajar con el gobierno boliviano de forma que podamos promover la democracia y la prosperidad en el continente", afirmó Wood en una rueda de prensa.'

But then you probably can't read Spanish since your watered-down education failed to prepare you with a minimum level of reading comprehension or critical thinking skills. All you know how to do is what you did. Make up shit and say something is so because you say so; No pattern of reasoning, no argument; no nothing. Of your skill sets, it can be said: "There's no there. . .there".

Hiding in the shadows of your anonymity, you just parrot what you hear Rush and others say on ultra-right wing radio since reading text-with understanding-is not what you do.

For further evidence to support my point, consider this:
To debate how an article in Bolivia's new constitution will do or not do something, posting the recently passed CPE in Spanish would be an example of how "posting evidence in Spanish insures accurate context" to support one's point.

6:12 AM  
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2:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"To hope otherwise is like asking the world to stop rotating in its axis, the sun to stop rising every morning, or you to stop being a Spanish cultural imperialist in an English blog."

The Earth rotates on or around an axis, not in it.

If you are sneering at others for education, you should really really be careful you don't screw up. Like you just did.

12:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It took you, what, one week to find the difference between "in" and "on?" Tré slow.

However, in the spirit of chivalry and fairness, I thank thee for pointing out my typo, Cuchi Cuchi worshipper worshipper.

;-)

The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
The Israelis are the good guys

1:53 PM  
Anonymous bm said...

I dont know how this new constitution take into consideration the real needs of the country.

2:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A small example on why the Israelis are the good guys and the Hamas terrorists and the bad ones.

Remember the sensational news that the Israelis had bombed a school in Gaza, with UN staff inside? Oh, the (lefty) international outrage! How could the Israelis be so cruel? Damn those Jews to hell! Surprise! Just as with another sensational piece of news a few years ago (remember "Jeningrad?"), the UN is forced to take back its claim that the Israelis targeted a school full of civilians. http://news.haaretz.co.il/hasen/spages/1061189.html

While in the real world, Hamas terrorists steal UN food aid and blankets meant for needy residents. I'm just waiting for (lefty) righteous international outrage for this one.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090204/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_palestinians;_ylt=AoJFXt2.VYoSURO8k9aS_hdvaA8F

In the meantime, the 'Bama wants to force down the throat of the US people a $900,000,000,000 crap sandwich crafted by his own tax cheats, while Cuchi Cuchi worshipper demonstrates once again that his government is the most corrupt in Bolivian history, the YPFB fiasco and 33 smuggling trucks a small example.

Yep, just another regular day in this increasingly lefty world.

;-)

The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
The Israelis are the good guys

9:35 AM  

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