A Bolivian Opposition Primary?
Welcome back from the holidays and welcome back to some updated analysis of Bolivian election politics.Three weeks from today Bolivians will go to the polls yet again, this time in a referendum on a new national constitution backed by President Evo Morales and MAS. The fact of the vote itself was a major breakthrough, the product of tense, internationally monitored, negotiations between MAS and its regional and party opponents. In October, a wide array of Bolivia’s warring factions agreed to bring the proposed constitution to a vote, in exchange for MAS acceptance of hundreds of amendments large and small.
In the view of some, the deal was wise political compromise that brought Bolivia back from the brink of even wider violent conflict. In the view of others, the sweeping changes were a sellout by MAS, rendering the new document little different in effect than the one Bolivia has now.
Regardless of one’s view on the compromises that paved the way for the January 25th vote, two stories here are worth more attention.
The first is what the vote this month signifies as a measure of ongoing Morales/MAS public support. The second is the call from some corners of the opposition for a nationwide ‘primary’ vote to determine one sole candidate to go up against Morales in the new Presidential elections likely next December.
Morales and the Voters
If you track the trend line in voter support for Evo Morales over the past six years, the steady and significant rise in his support is indisputable.
As a dark horse presidential candidate in 2002 Morales leapt to a surprise second place finish behind the winner, former president Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada, largely thanks to the suspicious public denunciation against Morales by the then-U.S. Ambassador. That strong finish gave Morales nearly a quarter of the national vote.
Three years later, in the December 2005 elections Morales won, he garnered a historic 53% of the vote, more than double his support in 2002. A few months later, in the July vote for delegates to the Constituent Assembly, Morales was not directly on the ballot, but his MAS party surpassed his previous vote total once again, slightly, winning 54%.
Then last August, in a nationwide referendum on the continued service of Morales and the regional governors, a vote demanded by Morales opponents, the President trumped even the most optimistic expectations, wining a lopsided 2/3 of the vote to stay in office (while two of his most vociferous opponents were tossed out of office by strong majorities).
So the question now is: How will Evo do on January 25th?
The vote in three weeks is not only on a new constitution; it is a new measurement of Morales’ popular support with Bolivian voters. Few serious observers think that MAS will come up short of the simple majority needed to make the new constitution the law. But there is plenty of room for Morales to fall far short of the 2/3 he received in August. If he does, the opposition that seems currently to be almost neutered will smell opportunity once more.
Plenty has transpired since the August vote that can alter the country’s political math. Violence tore through two departments in September. Morales declared open season on the U.S. government, expelling the U.S. ambassador and the DEA, and getting hit back with suspension of Bolivia’s participation in the Andean Trade Agreement (at a potential cost of 20,000 jobs). The Morales administration has also been hit with a series of corruption charges, ranging from accusations that his Minister of the Presidency helped smuggle in trucks without paying the required customs charges, to Morales’ placement of a 25-year-old with no professional qualifications as the chief administrator under the Governor of Cochabamba.
If MAS wins the vote this month with 55%, say, it will declare a sturdy victory. But if its support falls even 5% from the difficult-to-meet 2/3 it won in August, watch for opponents to rally.
The Opposition Primary
If the MAS-backed constitution wins, as expected, only then will the real campaigning begin. Approval would trigger a new round of elections in December for President, Governors, and Mayors, all across the country.
Two things will stand out as very different from elections past. The first is that Evo Morales will be constitutionally empowered to stand for reelection. That is a big change in a country where presidential reelection has been long prohibited, a change that Morales fought for hard.
The second is the very real possibility that Morales’ chief opponents might agree to another historic first – a national primary which would select which one of them would take on Morales, one on one.
One of those would-be opponents, Burger King magnate and former candidate Samuel Doria Medina (pictured above) is pushing a plan for a Bolivian primary among Morales’ chief potential opponents. That would include, as a start, himself and two former Sanchez de Lozada Vice-Presidents, Carlos Mesa and Victor Hugo Cardenas. The three, and potentially others such as former President and PODEMOS leader, Jorge Quiroga, would square off in a national vote in which all voters who wish could participate.
Nothing in Bolivian law provides for such a vote, nor does it prohibit one to my knowledge. The results would have to be honored by nothing more than each candidate’s word.
Why would this be a politically brilliant move?
First, it wraps the opposition in the mantle of popular democracy. “Who picked Evo to be the MAS candidate?” they will ask. “Not the people,” they will say. Second, it generates excitement, a nationwide election in which Morales is left to look on from the sidelines. Mexico’s disgraced PRI party invoked a similar ‘let’s have a primary’ move to help resurrect itself in the last election.
Most importantly, if the opposition really can narrow itself down to one candidate against Morales, that gives it the best chance possible (still, to be quite clear, a long shot) of beating him in a year. Evo benefits enormously from being the sole candidate on the electoral ‘left’ while the ‘right’ always manages to let individual ambitions saddle it with a line-up of candidates who split the field.
So welcome back from time off to contemplate cheese dip and Santa instead of the wild terrain of Bolivian politics. With three weeks to go, politics is back on.
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The real opponent Morales will have to face in the December election will be the terrible economic situation looming over Bolivia. It is one thing to win elections when your are enjoying the benefits of an unprecedented economic boom created by the rise of commodity prices and another, very different and challenging, to win when people lose their jobs, businesses go bust and there are no more Venezuelan checks to hand out. It will be interesting to see how loyal the “movimientos sociales” are to the idea of Evo forever
Jim said:
"In October, a wide array of Bolivia’s warring factions agreed to bring the proposed constitution to a vote, in exchange for MAS acceptance of hundreds of amendments large and small.
In the view of some, the deal was wise political compromise that brought Bolivia back from the brink of even wider violent conflict. In the view of others, the sweeping changes were a sellout by MAS, rendering the new document little different in effect than the one Bolivia has now."
A wide array?? How about half a dozen guys in a backroom deciding the future of Bolivia. If Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell and John Boehner cooked up a constitution and offered it up for a vote there would be a revolution. What about the question for the 25th? It's a complete fabrication.
If they would allow such a primary of the right racist sold out candidates I will not be surprise to have any one of them elected. After all bolivians are used to switch alliances in seconds. Just observe how a criminal dictator like Banzer was elected, or how drug dealers like Paz Zamora or corrupted, thieves like Sanchez de Lozada were also selected among backrooms of the crooked polititians.
If such a attrocity would be repeated I hope the authentic patriotic bolivians finally take over the ruling of the country.
Note: 100,000 palestinians are going to march in Sant Cruz against Israel, how many Jews are with Santa?
Ok, I didn't get posted on the last run responding to probably the same (by the tone and language) Anonymous 6:25pm of today but on the last post it was:
Anonymous 1:59
Like you, I too love numbers for, well, also being BOLD and DEFINITE. As the resounding 67% approval of President Evo Morales Ayma's mandate. Yeah, I concurr that could be subjectively characterized as "love", but to a trained economist, I suspect it is also due to these other numbers:
These are published World Bank indicators for Bolivia's (GNI), which reflects the average income of a country’s citizens.
2007 - 4,140
2006 - 1,100
2005 - 1,020
2004 - 960
2003 - 920
2002 - 930
2001 - 960
2000 - 1,000
1999 - 990
Yes, the boom of commodities probably accounts for some of it but we know where that profit would have gone had the contracts had not been renegotiated.
On another note, you sound like Howard Gutless-or whateva his name is, lawyer/letter to editor author defending such undefendables as Sánchez de Lozada and Berzaín.
The article on the MNT, originally cited him eg "The real criminals are the native organizers." (referring to the murderous response by the above to the 2003 uprisings). Well, Howie is kind enough to confirm his tactic of accusing the victim of the crime for provoking the perpetrator by posting a letter to the editor.
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2009-01-01/news/letters-from-the-issue-of-january-1-2009/
On the issue of an "opposition primary", I do not think, even with Jim's help, that they could find agreement amongst themselves to test their popularity in the few days left plus I would not blame Bolivian voters one bit for being outraged at such a proposition all in the same time as the Constitution question which caused them so many years of struggle.
Next, we'll read proposals for "Mr. Congeniality or Most Improved Past Corruption Practices, or better yet, Most Shameless and Unccountable Candidate."
I don 't know whether the 1st poster is aware of this, but we are in the middle of an economic recession in both the UK and the US, neither of which elected either Morales or Chavez.I don't understand the connection.
I think that the future of Bolivian politics is in with people like Alejo Veliz. During the 90s he was a friend and ally of Evo Morales, but now is a fierce opponent. Affable, articulate, and wearing the same beat up hat for more than 10 years (unknown if he ever removed it), he believes in economic freedom and solid property rights, which is key to prosperity. In this interview, he shreds Cuchi Cuchi worshipper and his band of monolito humpers to shreds with common sense, humility, and humor.
http://www.lostiempos.com/oh/28-12-08/entrevista.php
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The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
Anon 5:55, your World Bank GNI indicator 2007 (by the way, your definition of GNI as "average income" is wrong) is way too "BOLD and DEFINITE." For your misfortune, there are people in this blog who check out "BOLD and DEFINITE" assertions.
From 2005 to 2007, according to you, it quadruples from 1,020 to 4,140. Alas, according to my World Bank report, it only rose to 1,260 in 2007, way below what you typed down. Furthermore, the report states that most of Bolivian economic growth was due to "exceptional external conditions" (i.e. high commodity prices, debt forgiveness), the opposite what you're stating. The report also notes inflation doubled from 10 years ago and increased inequality.
Here's the real BOLD and DEFINITE World Bank report about Bolivia:
http://74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:9gobp2pDqcUJ:web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/COUNTRIES/LACEXT/BOLIVIAEXTN/0,,menuPK:322289~pagePK:141132~piPK:141107~theSitePK:322279,00.html+world+bank+bolivia+gni&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
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The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
I live/work in Bolivia and found this article on cnn; sound all to similar to what is happening/may happen in Bolivia...
HAVANA, Cuba (CNN) -- Thursday marks the 50th anniversary of the Cuban revolution, when Fidel Castro and a group of guerrillas toppled a longstanding U.S.-backed dictator.
But January 1, 1959, was a long time ago. In Cuba today, when people refer to "the revolution," they often mean the country's aging, established government.
After so many years, people's hopes for the revolution's future are hardly revolutionary.
"I hope that it continues to move forward, because this country needs development. We're really behind," said a student who did not give his name.
"More opportunities in the economy and in transportation," another man said.
But there was a time when the goals were much loftier.
In the first days of 1959, when Castro and his bearded rebels rolled into Havana on tanks and other captured vehicles, they talked of sweeping changes -- an end to corruption, justice for the poor and independence from foreign domination.
A half-century later, their achievements are a mixed bag.
Most Cubans can barely make ends meet, and while the government blames a U.S. trade embargo imposed in 1962, critics say it's just bad management. They say the gains of the revolution have come at too heavy a cost.
Dissident groups say Cuba holds more than 200 political prisoners, an accusation the government denies.
Television, radio and newspapers are all controlled by the state.
Cuba marks the 50th anniversary of the revolution with a new president, Raul Castro, who officially took the reins in February because of the prolonged illness of his brother, Fidel Castro.
But this year, Raul Castro faced three devastating hurricanes, rising prices for food imports and plummeting prices for nickel, one of Cuba's most important exports.
In a speech this week, the president warned Cubans -- who on average earn the equivalent of less than $20 a month -- to prepare for belt-tightening.
"The accounts don't square up," Raul Castro told the National Assembly. "You have to act with realism and adjust the dreams to the true possibilities."
That pragmatic approach is a far cry from the idealism in the early days of the revolution led by his brother.
"I think that celebrations of the 50th anniversary are also marked by a real sense that sustaining this experiment and institutionalizing it is going to require major, major lifting in a very short term by the people running the country today," said Julia Sweig of the Council on Foreign Relations.
That, in turn, could mean making changes to deal with a new environment. But, ironically, change is about the last thing people here expect from the revolution.
Marcha por paz en el medio oriente y contra la guerra y asesinato de civiles. Organizada por la Asociacion Palestinos Bolivianos.
Donde: Santa Cruz, Bolivia partiendo la calle Charcas N 370
Cuando: Martes 6 de enero desde las 9:30am
http://www.eldeber.com.bo/vernotaahora.php?id=090103234846
The anti Israeli nuts continue to spread their racist propaganda by victimizing the aggressors. Yo, the Israelis are the good guys!
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The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
if "Israeli's are the good guys" follow that model.
Bomb the homes of UCJ, Nacion Camba and the Croat leaders of the insurrection
Starve them into the humanitarian disaster wrought upon Palestian civilians by Israel according to journalist reports smuggled past Israel's news blockade.
That Evo did not do that agai at the Media Luna proves he is the good guy by relying on the rule of law. And shows someone here is an Oreo cookie: black on outside; Croat/Zionist on the inside
As a Jew with Santa Cruz family connections, I'd like firstly to point out that I, like many European Jews, have a very different worldview to many of those Jews in the US who look for protection of the likes of Fox and CNN to give their myopic self-obssessions validity.Many European Jews view Israel's missiling of Gaza as being a bit like that Monty Python scene where Graham Chapman goes mosquito hunting with a bazooka; an almost surreal overreaction.There is nothing surreal, of course, about the dead civilians and quite a few Jewish public figures in the UK have publicly expressed their disgust at Israel -something I and many other liberal Jews are pleased to see.
I point this out as many in South America are as ignorant of the political complexions and opinions of Europeans as Europeans are of those in South America.In the East End of London during the 1930s, for example, the Jews there were protected from the violent marches of the British Union of Fascists by the socialists and communists who took to blocking streets so the fascists couldn't pass and empathies between the two groups run historically deep, as a certain Mr.A.Hitler was often quick to point out.The BUF were similar to the Unión Juvenil Crucenista - emotionally simplistic and intellectually confused thugs and racists.
As a MAS supporter, and an admirer of Evo, I ask that thinking Bolivians refrain from making such sweeping generalisations about Jewish people - at least without looking deeper into things.
Here's a "sweeping generalisation about Jewish people", you ALL support your government's inhumane treatment of Palestinians as if they were subhuman. Unlike the American's who finally get it and voted out the Republicans, you ALL vote into office leaders who ALWAYS have done what they are doing to the Palestinians (admittedly sometimes they do it to their Lebanese neighbors). In that you are like Branko, Leopoldo and your fellow neo-nazi soulmates in Bolivia. As to the words you write, they are hollow, your zionist soul perpetuates the inhumane war crimes you people commit by your actions. Actions speak louder than your words. When the UCJ thugs were beating cholitas and those with indigenous physical features, where were your words?
The plight of the Palestinians is similar to that of Bolivia's indigenous people. Both of them are exploited by more powerful racist, white-skinned warlike people enabled and funded by the US for geopolitical reasons.
It's so funny and pathetic how the anti Israeli nuts display their complete lack of history and grammar and rather highlight homophobia, racism, and analytical abilities that a 2 year old would be proud to eschew.
Little lesson of history why Israel is not the aggressor here. In 2005, the Israelis withdrew en masse from Gaza. The West supported free and open elections that gave Hamas their legitimacy, such as it was. Gaza is strategically placed on the Mediterranean with a prime shoreline. It borders Egypt the traditional center of the Arab world. Hundreds of millions of dollars of Middle-East oil money, and Western relief donations have poured into the tiny state. Instead of taking of this once in a lifetime opportunity to lead its people into prosperity, Hamas decides to continue was it only knows what to do: send thousands of rockets into Israel to kill anything in its path. Uh, does that count as a no-no?
Hamas counts on the fact that its own losses will be characterized as a “holocaust” and appear comparable in the Western media to something like Darfur or the slaughtering in Zimbabwe, or the usual carnage that we wake up to on the news. Take away Western press attention from Gaza, and Hamas is just another violent and terrorist regime that impoverishes its own people while seeking victim status in the West.
By the way, quit whining about Israel's "disproportionate" response. World opinion more vehemently condemns Israel's countermeasures, apparently because its rockets are far more accurate and deadly than previous Hamas barrages that are poorly targeted and thus not so lethal.
If the US had accepted such rules in, say, World War II, then by late 1944 the Allies, not the Axis, would have been the culpable party, since by then once-aggressive German, Italian and Japanese forces were increasingly on the defensive and far less lethal than the Allies.
Killing Palestinian civilians is incidental to Israeli military operations and proves counterproductive to its objectives. Blowing up Israeli non-combatants is the aim of Hamas' barrages: the more children, aged and women who die, the more it expects political concessions from Israel.
So, yes, the Israelis are definitely the good guys here, no matter what homophobic recist anti Israelis with terrible grammar might grunt or type.
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The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
Nothing worse than a self-hating Jew.
What about a self-hating afro-Boliviano?
Chill out on dissing Bolivia by claiming the vermin that infest this blog are Bolivian. I'm referring to the Afro-Republican who cannot speak or write in Spanish. (That was evidenced by his whine that original sources should be translated for hiI m/it into the "language of Shakespeare").
As to his/its posing as a historian and grammarian, just consider his Sarah Palin grammar if you need prove of hypocricy and lack of credibility:
"Instead of taking of this once in a lifetime opportunity to lead its people into prosperity, Hamas decides to continue was it only knows what to do: send thousands of rockets into Israel to kill anything in its path."
As to the diss about an alleged "self-hating Jew": Maybe we Jews, like Jim Schultz, hate the actions of the zionists but not our being born into the faith of Abraham and Moses. Notwithstanding Jim's professed atheism, I know of nothing Jim has done or written that shows "self-hating".
I recently spoke with a "proud" UJC member who was confused about what to think. On one hand he hates Evo, indians, collas, but on the other hand he hates the "zionist Israelis" and their murdering of civilians.
His dilemma comes in that he now finds himself in the perplexing situation of actually agreeing with Evo morales. He can't wrap his mind around the fact that he and his sworn enemy have something in common. It has actually caused him to re-evaulate his position about the Israeli conflict. Maybe the Israeli government isn't that bad, after all Evo hates them.
I thought it was interesting, funny and sad all at the same time.
Please bozos, this is about the opposition primary!!
Signed
El Jaime
I'm the Jewish guy who wrote the post at 12.53am.
Firstly, I am not self hating, which is why whilst I do hate intellectually stunted racist ideologues like the Nacion Camba and troublemaking fascists like, well, quite a lot of the current Bolivian opposition.I may hate some other people but not myself, you see.In fact I think I'm actually a pretty fucking excellent chap on the whole - fair minded and trying my best and all that.So I don't hate Jews or Palestinians and I don't support Israel either.Their engineering of the blockade against Gaza and the subsequent schoolyard reckoning they have sought to dish out is a disgrace.Food, aid, electricity, trade, even UN peacekeepers if need be: all of these things could have been sent into Gaza over the last 18 months.All would have begun to gradually alleviate the venom in the area, as we know in the UK from Northern Ireland.
I'm also white and and support the MAS, because they are essentially in the right where Bolivian issues are concerned.Same as Garcia Linera and Chato Peredo.Both people I admire hugely.A self hating white man, as well?Hardly.Because I have respect for myself I extend it to others, but then I didn't grow up and get educated in a cow-town with a school system founded by fleeing Nazis, so to each our own.
Secondly, unless proved otherwise, I do not believe for a second that the poster at 3.44 who went off on a long one about the evils of the Jews is really a MAS supporter.I'm fairly sure it's a rightwinger trying the same secret squirrel technique as when they earlier claimed to be Afri- Bolivian in order to sow doubt.Typical Cambista mendacity, in my experience.They gleefully use race as the way in to an argument because they perceive it to be an achilles heel amongst lefties.It isn't for me.It just shows their suspect and constant obssession with race and racial purity.I mixed with people from both the MAS and the opposition in Santa Cruz and I only ever got anti-semitic comments from the opposition side,a not uncomon occurrence, because they see the world primarily through a prism of race and locale.The MAS see it politically. So I think someone is trying to cause mischief by cloaking their own swirling hatreds in the blue, white and black.
Oh,and Wistupiku is Morales' Burger king
Toyota is Morales' Ferrari.
Beat that.
PS. Primaries are a good idea, though.
Let them tear strips off each other.:)
Jim,
Don't you have anything to say about the DEA leaving? Is it that you don't believe they are really leaving for good? Do you think Evo's government will be able to control powerful international traffickers.. stop them from coming in and taking over? You've had so much to say about the DEA over the years that it is hard to understand why you don't have anything to say now... Do you think Evo wants the DEA out so the traffickers will come in so that his people can sell coca more easily, or do you think he really believes he can stop the extra coca from turning into cocaine without help from the DEA... or do you think it doesn't matter? I mean you talked about the peace corps leaving... the expulsion of the DEA is the end of a 35 year relationship that, whether you think it has been for good or for bad has certainly been significant..and the DEA leaving means the loss of jobs and dollars. Why the silence?
The Israeli continues to pound serious Hamas ass, while at the same time allows a unilateral humanitarian gesture to permit aid to enter Gaza. We can just hope the "aid" is not smuggled weapons that the Hamas terrorists use to attack Israelis while purposefully mingling within its population. Naturally, Hamas and its anti Israeli nut job allies are playing their principal weapon: the victimization propaganda.
Truth be told, victimization is crucial for the Hamas terrorists. Hamas daily sends barrages into Israel, as its hooded thugs thump their chests and brag of their radical Islamic militancy. But when the payback comes, suddenly warriors are transmogrified into weeping victims, posing teary-eyed for the news camera as they deplore "genocide" and "the Palestinian Holocaust." At least the Japanese militarists did not cry out to the League of Nations for help once mean Marines landed on Iwo Jima, right?
Oh, and quit the cheap and overused "we hate such and such government but don't hate it's people." Lies and more lies. When you attend anti Israeli marches and the usual nuts chant (in the language of Shakespeare) "You need bigger ovens," your point is mute. Leaders come and go, but the people remain...and you still hate them.
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The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
The Israelis are the good guys.
Don't forget with the help of the Venzuelans... there will be voter fraud as there was in the last referendum... and Quintana was in the middle of it.
anon 908 AM/croat
Although many of your posts are rants ... You posted a spot
on evaluation today my friend... Amen
I would be interested in what people think about the revised CPE. Is it a sell-out/caving-in to the opposition, or did MAS maintain its core goals in the new CPE? I think that the new version is an improvement in many ways as it accommodates some of the most controversial, points without conceding too much or disrespecting the efforts of the Asamblea.
For example, the revised CPE does away with the special rights afforded to PIOC (indigenous communities) in the first draft by creating the potential for autonomy for indigenous communities, municipalities, and departments. At the same time, the procedures for enacting autonomy rights seem to be determined in the revised CPE. MAS thereby maintains the potential for indigenous autonomy, acknowledges the strong desire for departmental autonomy, but does not commit or concede too much to opposition.
In regard to private property the revised CPE does away with the "funcion economico social" language, and replaces it with softer language. There is also a qualifier that protects private property in urban areas. This will assuage concerns of the urban middle class that MAS will take away peoples lots in urban areas and give them to cocaleros. :) (As far fetched as that concern might have been) It seems again that MAS is able with the change to gain middle class supporters, without conceding too much to the opposition. Since, Land reform laws are already on the books to redistribute un-used or under-utilized land, and MAS has increased compliance with the law, MAS goal of fixing the highly unequal distribution of agricultural lands will continue.
Miguel de los Shanqueros
Anonymous 10:28pm
I really do miss our dwindling jewish community in Bolivia. I remember my moms various jewish friends from high school, all which have now moved to the US or Israel. She still keeps in touch with them and some even visit once in a while but it's not the same. I think being exposed to different cultures and people is very important in understanding and enriching ones existance, and it's unfortunate that in Bolivia we are less and less exposed on a personal basis to the jewish reality.
I believe the last remaining jewish community resides in La Paz and once they leave then Bolivia will be without a jewish presence. A sad reality.
Enough about Israel and Jews and Arabs.... What about Bolivia and Bolivians and the New CPE????????????????
Many Jews used to live in Cochabamba...especially in the San Martin avenue near Plaza Colon. I don't know what happened to many of them. Died off or emigrated, I suppose.
Regarding the new proposed and illegal (yes, illegal, as it was passed without 2/3 majority in the military compound La Glorieta) "constitution," it doesn't even pass the laughing test. Just read the preamble that purports to explain geology, history, anthropology, sociology, economics in a few sentences. It's fine for a yatiri, shaman, voodoo doctor, Cuchi Cuchi worshipper, and other crazy kooks, but not for the foundation of a modern, civilized nation. Besides, it's way too redundant, amateurishly written, and has too many words. Ergo, a recipe for disaster.
My humble 2 bolivianos.
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The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
The Israelis are the good guys
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First, this blog's resident revisionist argued A) "Bush is vindicated". Now, it is claimed that "It's so funny and pathetic how the anti Israeli nuts display their complete lack of history...” and C) “Many Jews used to live in Cochabamba...especially in the San Martin avenue near Plaza Colon."
My counterargument is:
A) Bush is NOT vindicated; Bush is acting gracious to Obama to inoculate himself from being investigated for war crimes, high crimes, and domestic espionage.
B) A and C refute the revisionist's “history” and show a “funny” and “pathetic” lack thereof.
C) At or about the time of WW II, many Jews emigrated to the US, Argentina, Chile and, yes, even Bolivia. Many of said immigrants moved to Oruro and Potosi because of the then mining boom. Cochabamba also received many Jews. Generally their real estate needs were met on two levels:
1) Their businesses were mainly in these areas:
a) bookstores, stationaries or perfumeries were often on General Acha;
b) textiles and the like were sold on Esteban Arze (their predominate choice of location);
c) tools, hardware, and etc was sold on San Martin.
2)Their homes were likely to be in better residential areas like La Recoleta or Cala Cala. This was because of their appreciation of living in comfortable homes with vegetation and/or gardens, which they could afford as fruit of their hard work and prudent practices.
Anon 10:28PM wrote:
"Wistupiku is Morales' Burger king
Toyota is Morales' Ferrari.
Beat that."
For my Jewish "Brother-in-arms" consideration:
Zionists are Olmert's Nazis
Gaza is Olmert's Auschwitz
Zionist Republicans are bad guys
PS: To inoculate myself from baseless ad hominems like "anti-semitic", I reveal my “reel name” is . . .
"El Jacobo Grindioberg"
Jim writes "Nothing in Bolivian law provides for such a vote, nor does it prohibit one to my knowledge". However, he ignores the elephant in the room: cost.
Who will pay for it? Is the state expected to foot the expensive bill when there are infrastructure, health and education needs? When gas and mineral income has dropped drastically and Bush's ineptitude and malfeasance has sparked a deep global recession/mini-depression? What legal basis would support prioritizing the need for Evo's opposition to consolidate behind one candidate over Bolivia's other pressing needs?
The idea is a nonstarter because it is not workable. Its fatal flaw is lack of funding.
Croat Jew:
Please go home and leave Bolivia free of your racist zionist propaganda.
After months of silence, the blog's most notorious failed anticapitalist capitalist and provocateur is back! What, the Bush government bailed out your failed investments already?
(uncomfortable pause)
I thought so.
(collapse to floor in laughter)
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The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
The Israelis are the good guys
In such a defining moment of our history, and before voting, we Bolivians and other latin americans should carefully study and understand the visionary words and thinking of Simon Bolivar, the most important leader in the quest for the indepence of South America, who is so frequently cited by some of the "revolutionary" leaders of our continent.
"Flee from a country in which only one exercises all the powers: it is a country of slaves". (Speech in Convento de los Franciscanos, 1.2.1814)
"Although war is the summary of all evils, tyranny is the summary of all the wars". (Proclamation in Cundinamarca, 1.17.1814)
"There is nothing more dangerous than allowing the same citizen to be in power for too long. The people get used to obey him, he gets used to command them and this originates encroachment and tyranny". (Speech in Angostura, 2.15.1819)
"If a man was necessary to sustain a state, such state should not exist, and at the end would not exist". (Message to the Congress of Colombia, 1.20.1830)
Justo Perez
The problem with vague and not-so-profound quotes is that they could be applied equally against MAS and Morales or Marinkovich and the Opposition.
Regarding the topic, if the new constitution is approved, there is little opportunity for a primary election among the opposition leaders, they will have to get together and chose one among them to be president and other for vice president. This not because of Grindiota’s wet dreams of the US giving a rat’s ass on what is happening in Bolivia, get over dude, Bolivia is a the bottom of the Obama agenda.
The new constitution will give so much power to the new executive body that the spoils of war are going to be huge, enough to feed everybody’s egos and pockets. In my opinion the best bet to beat Evo is with Victor Hugo Cardenas and the worst with Mesa or anybody from Santa Cruz, for the moment.
Miguel, I discussed several articles of the proposed new constitution, you can enter at my blog and give it a reading. Regarding your comments, yes, in effect, the new constitution opens up the possibility for autonomies, thing that isn’t written in the current constitution, the problem is that since the proposed constitution in half written as a constitution and half written as a law, I has several incongruence’s in that and several other issue, which will only led to more internal fighting when we tried to create the laws in the future, if the new constitution is approved. Regarding land, little has changed from the current constitution, only that there will be a number in relation to the amount of land one can posses, which should be in a law and not in the constitution. This apart of showing complete ignorance in relation to the “use of land”, that is agricultural vs. livestock vs. forestry land; doesn’t prevent a person from owning vast quantities of land, since in the way is written one can own his/her land and co own more land with many other people, like wife, son, cousin, e friend, an enemy, etc, etc.
Regarding the Jewish vs. the Palestinians, is nice to see that is not only Bolivians that blame all their faults on others. The fighting, the murder and the wrong doing belong to both groups with equal responsibility; the leaders of both bands should be put in trial for genocide; the present situation in the middle east is a real shame for human kind.
"Miguel, I discussed several articles of the proposed new constitution, you can enter at my blog and give it a reading."
Bolivia Libre: Please, Miguel, enter. Anyone, please enter. You may be the first one to comment on her blog.
Buffy :)
Eye for an eye, Zionist get 100 palestinian eyes for each half ass jewish eye.
Killing fields with the blessing of the rich countries, owned and run by jews obviously.
Anon 5:16
Obviously a anti-semetic... How about giving your worthless eye
Since this Bolivian Blog has turned international, I would like to point something out to all the Left-wing, Israel haters that think salvation will come to the world on January 20th, 2009:
“If somebody was sending rockets into my house where my two daughters sleep at night, I’m going to do everything in my power to stop that. And I would expect Israelis to do the same thing.”
--Barak Obama, July 2008
Oh, one more thing: Without trying to justify the killing of innocents; let's look at this mornings headlines:
KABUL, Afghanistan (CNN) -- A suicide car bomb blast near a voter registration site killed 16 people, 14 of them children, and wounded 58 in southeastern Afghanistan on Sunday morning, according to a senior police official and the U.S. military.
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) -- Two explosions have struck a small cafe in volatile northwestern Pakistan, killing six people, including two police officers, local police and an official said.
Seems like radical groups (Hamas fits that catagory) are doing a pretty good job killing too. Why isn't the world outraged over the thousands a year that are killed by these radical groups? But when Israel fights back...boy, watch out!
11:32 said,
"Jim,
Don't you have anything to say about the DEA leaving? Is it that you don't believe they are really leaving for good? Do you think Evo's government will be able to control powerful international traffickers.. stop them from coming in and taking over? You've had so much to say about the DEA over the years that it is hard to understand why you don't have anything to say now..."
Oh yes Jim, please answer what poor Evo is going to do without the Americans. The "world cop" needs to go back to Bolivia and help steer those poor Bolivian souls back to the path of Justice and Democracy in the same way it helped good old Karzai, the president of the "free and democratic" country of Afghanistan.
Franco
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“Kept afloat by billions of dollars in American and other foreign aid, the government of Afghanistan is shot through with corruption and graft. From the lowliest traffic policeman to the family of President Hamid Karzai himself, the state built on the ruins of the Taliban government seven years ago now often seems to exist for little more than the enrichment of those who run it.
A raft of investigations has concluded that people at the highest levels of the Karzai administration, including President Karzai’s own brother, Ahmed Wali Karzai, are cooperating in the country’s opium trade, now the world’s largest. In the streets and government offices, hardly a public transaction seems to unfold here that does not carry with it the requirement of a bribe, a gift, or, in case you are a beggar, “harchee” — whatever you have in your pocket.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/02/world/asia/02kabul.html?hp
"A Bolivian oposition primary?"
Elections? What for? Mr. Morales announced yesterday that the MAS will be in power forever. Probably like in "democratic" Cuba.
"There is nothing more dangerous than allowing the same citizen to be in power for too long. The people get used to obey him, he gets used to command them and this originates encroachment and tyranny". (Speech in Angostura, 2.15.1819) Simon Bolivar
Justo Perez
Better than Taliban savages blowing the brains out of "criminals" such as women accused of adultery in a UN-built soccer stadium in front of a bloodthirsty crowd, Franco baby. Or how about throwing acid on girls' faces just for the crime of wanting to go to school to get an education?
We got a bunch of Andean Taliban wannabes in our own country led by an autocratic egomaniac with a bad haircut who pretends to be able to place Israel on the map and keep his zipper up at the same time. Now THAT's scary.
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The Croats are Morales' Jews
Beni is Morales' Katrina
The Israelis are the good guys
Evo has just said he's in power for the rest of his life. Jim, is staying in power until you die or become chronically incontinent like Castro "democracy from the bottom up"?
Jim, why do you shut down the blog's comments section for days at a time? Don't you know you have made our communities unsafe because of all the Bolivian-public policy-junkies in a state of withdrawl?
shut the fuck up grindio
shut the f.u. grindio
How come the "Democracy Center" has not published a series of white papers analyzing the proposed CPE and endorsed a side? I would have expected, if not an article by article analysis, at least a subject/section analysis.
May be I missed a post, or may be jet-setting aroudn the world is that tiring.
I for one, do not believe the proposed CPE is legal, legitimate maybe, but not legal in the sense that it did not follow the letter of the law that called for its creating.
Secondly, the CPE does nothing to battle poverty and segregation, it rather creates citizen categories and makes the state THE central player in the economy thus ensuring further corruption, clientilism and poverty.
Finally, it is clear that the objective of the CPE is to perpetuate the current party in power. Evo and the MAS will be corrupted by power, make no mistake, and whoever follows will have that much more centralized power. Given the track record of Bolivian rulers, this is a terrible idea no matter how you cut it.
I would agree with Simon Bolivar, concentrating the power in one person only leads to tyrany and a government that can survive ONLY under the leadership of one person/party is not sustainable and will not endure.
ps. Regarding the "primary," I think the whole thing is laughable. A bunch of corrupt thieves want to select among themselves who will be the thief in charge. What the opposition first needs to do is to define a vision of a country. The MAS has a clear vision: a "version trucha" of Cuba/taliban made in Bolivia. The opposition needs to define a platform, exclude thieves like Tuto/Garcia Mesa/Doria Medina/Marinkovic/Reyes Villa/etc. The only viable alternative I see at the moment is a Victor Hugo Cardenas - Alejo Velez.
Maybe Cardenas, but Alejo Velez? He's less than honest in his representations of the positions of others. Remember, he fully endorsed Manfred.
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